Grandalf Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I have been using Federal Sierraking in my 22/250 for fox. Good results. Couldn't get any this time round. Got two boxes of Winchester Supreme Ballistic Tipped to try. Any information would be appreciated. (Found Remington Ballistic Tipped was not a good expanding bullet when I tried them some time ago - they tended to pass straight through Reynard unless you hit bone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) I think you will find there Nosler BTs coated with lubelox,or they were when a knew someone who used them,the coating was a pain in the *** as everytime he cleaned the rifle he had to puty a few shots down it to recoat the barrel,persoanlly I wouldnt bother Edited September 6, 2011 by Ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I think you will find there Nosler BTs coated with lubelox,or they were when a knew someone who used them,the coating was a pain in the *** as everytime he cleaned the rifle he had to puty a few shots down it to recoat the barrel,persoanlly I wouldnt bother Yes, they are the ones, but it says on the box that the lubalox 'reduces the engraving force and barrel fouling'. I'll have to give them a go because I couldn't get my usual Federal and the gun doesn't like Norma - loose group. Remington ballistic tip I have no faith in at all as I said earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I have to say I heard nothing but negatives with moly type coatings, however I bought a cheap load of winchester silvertips in .223 that are coated and never had an issue. They did shoot very well for factory loads, no idea on the cleaning issue as I used to do 20 odd shots and then clean and check zero but it was never off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I have to say I heard nothing but negatives with moly type coatings, however I bought a cheap load of winchester silvertips in .223 that are coated and never had an issue. They did shoot very well for factory loads, no idea on the cleaning issue as I used to do 20 odd shots and then clean and check zero but it was never off That sound much more positive and I have roughly the same cleaning regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 if you bought them new you won't want too many fouling shots sounds painfully expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 they are shockingly exspecive!! but good bullets i got less that half inch 5 shot groups with them. however they are dirty and make your mod smell like cats **** !! real realy badly i took mine off to clean and sniffed it(love the smell of powder) and nearly passed out! also they go a wee bit faster in my gu. and are a bit flatter shooting at longer ranges 4-500m for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 if you bought them new you won't want too many fouling shots sounds painfully expensive Nah, pre-owned, one previous owner, a careful lady shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Nah, pre-owned, one previous owner, a careful lady shooter. sounds like the person I bought mine from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thanks for all the comments lads. I haven't tried them yet. Zeroing was out yesterday due to a minor hurricane in East Anglia. Final question - Do they kill? Is the expansion what it is cracked up to be on the box. (Where they claim to be the best bullet ever). I got the tight grouping with Remington's but the expansion was ****! Your right - Winchester's are expensive - but what isn't these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thanks for all the comments lads. I haven't tried them yet. Zeroing was out yesterday due to a minor hurricane in East Anglia. Final question - Do they kill? Is the expansion what it is cracked up to be on the box. (Where they claim to be the best bullet ever). I got the tight grouping with Remington's but the expansion was ****! Your right - Winchester's are expensive - but what isn't these days? "calim to be the best bullet ever" as I told your there Nosler BT just coated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 "calim to be the best bullet ever" as I told your there Nosler BT just coated They claim - Not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 well they kill i took well over 10 roe with them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 well they kill i took well over 10 roe with them, Sounds more like it - Still haven't zeroed yet due gales - maybe today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 ive used them in a old 22/250 before i stated to reload. was clocking up 3820 fps with them out of a 26 inch barrel. thoughto be fair i didnt find them to expand as much as the 50 grain blizkings or vmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerstalkerlunt Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I used to use them a lot before starting reloading through my .243, I was getting 1/2 inch grouping at 100m and they were deadly on Roe and Fox. I would describe them like grenades on impact, therefore only head/neck shots on roe otherwise make a mess of the carcass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I have to say I heard nothing but negatives with moly type coatings, however I bought a cheap load of winchester silvertips in .223 that are coated and never had an issue. They did shoot very well for factory loads, no idea on the cleaning issue as I used to do 20 odd shots and then clean and check zero but it was never off Same here, though lubalox is not moly its aluminium oxide. The last lot of Winchesters I shot in my 223 were loaded pretty hot for factory rounds but they were accurate enough. The Nosler bullets don' fragment as well as the Vmax or Blitzking though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) sounds like the person I bought mine from **** you very much Incidentally, I don't care what anyone else thinks, I shot hundreds of those and they are the most accurate thing to put down the barrel of a rifle and out of the packet. Outrageously expensive, yes, but there you go, I'm worth it Edited September 13, 2011 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 For various reasons outside of my control, if not that of the Memsahib's - I have not got round to using them yet. From all the comments about price, and the rising cost of ammunition at the moment, I may to choose to put them in the family vault and keep them as an investment for my very old age. Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Used them in .270 a fair bit and found them very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I would describe them like grenades on impact, therefore only head/neck shots on roe otherwise make a mess of the carcass! At long last I used one for real last night. There were many reasons for the long delay - one being entertaining Pavman and his new NV toy! Any way Winchester Silver tips in 22/250. Zeroing - Five shot thumbnail at 100yds off landrover bonnet. Expansion - Absolutely right Deerstalkerlunt - Just like a grenade! Fox dead at 200yds in strong and squally wind and driving rain - heart shot. Same fox - Put one into the head at 150 yds to see results - exploded head. Expensive but effective. Now to clean the gun and see what the residue in the barrel is like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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