eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm looking for some advice on semi-autos from you knowledgeable peeps. Looking at Browning, Winchester, Beretta in gas autos and Franchi/Benelli in inertia autos bearing in mind I have not shot either type so need some some practical advice. Many thanks in anticipation.. Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbly Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 You've just opened one big can of worms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 You say benelli I say beretta let's call the whole thing off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbly Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Personally I'd go down the Beretta route, but despite what you'll be told they'll all misfeed or jam at some point, you just need to know how to cope when it happens and try to prevent it best you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 A very large can. My personal choice depending what you want to shoot: Clays - Benelli Supersport carbon Field - Winchester SX3 The Beretta boys will be along in a minute and again they are great great guns. Find a shop which has a good range and try before you buy as what suits one wont always suit another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I tend to choose a good make,then pick the one I best like the look of.Ditto for pumps and o/u's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 You've just opened one big can of worms... get a escort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster1971 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 when you are looking at that range of makes it doesnt really matter ,what matters is which gun suits you better , ie gun fit ,pull ,comfort and most importantly which one you hit more with good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Oh dear!!...sorry, don't want to start a war.. :blink: So what's the difference between inertia and gas as regards recoil, cleaning, maintenance, etc?...not asking much, am I! Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Sx3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Inertia: simple no cleaning issues indestructible light gun. Gas: less recoil handles usually wider variety of carts heavier gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchynik Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Try loads and go for the one that feels the best. I did that (Benelli, Beretta, Winchester, Fabarm) and went for the Fabarm. Not regretted it one bit and it's as good on the clays as it is on the duck, goose, crow which have all fallen to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Many thanks for the input so far....much appreciated! Must admit to liking the look of the Franchi Fast Black...very light gun...would appreciate some opinions. Would an inertia semi kick less than my Browning O/U or more? Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I went for a benelli, fitted me well also inertia for easyier cleaning (which is what I was after), fires 21G cartridges. Found the Fabarms had too short of a stock for me. Remember a 28" semi is equiv to a 30" o/u when you are looking at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) I went for a benelli, fitted me well also inertia for easyier cleaning (which is what I was after), fires 21G cartridges. Found the Fabarms had too short of a stock for me. Remember a 28" semi is equiv to a 30" o/u when you are looking at them. The Franchi Fast Black has Benelli literally written all over it.. What's the recoil like on the Benelli? Gonna have to go and shoulder a few! Eric. Edited November 12, 2011 by eredel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Inertia: simple no cleaning issues indestructible light gun. Gas: less recoil handles usually wider variety of carts heavier gun. dont think so, all guns need cleaned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I don't notice the recoil on mine, there again I am well padded, a couple of friends who prefer o/u's who have tried it say they like the feel of it. The gun fit comes in a first all the time, while I tried a friends s/a before getting mine I found his was not a good fit, a case of trying as many as you can to see which one feels right. With some s/a's they have adjustable stocks by changing shims, which I left mine as supplied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 They do all need cleaning but inertia is less prone to jamming when dirty and don't have gas ports to block and pistons to jam IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Many thanks for the input so far....much appreciated! Must admit to liking the look of the Franchi Fast Black...very light gun...would appreciate some opinions. Would an inertia semi kick less than my Browning O/U or more? Eric. I've got both, horses for courses. I love my Browning and it is my choice if I want to have a serious clay day, but I have to admit that that is simply because i have had it longer. My Benelli is tremendous fun and it certainly kicks differently to the O/U, feels less to me, ( One bloke shot it and said the kick is more than his O/U after only one shot! ). It all depends what you feel like on the day. Certainly for convenience, if I am shooting with several people, it can be a pain picking up the discards from the semi while people are waiting, when I can catch the empties from the O/U as I eject them. However, if you really must have a heavier cartridge, you can really feel the difference. 28gm can leave me with a bit of soreness after 200+ cartridges on the O/U, but with the Benelli, the only soreness is from lifting the gun 200 + times, not from the recoil. Having said that, you can use light loads as well, the Benelli cycles 21gm loads easily and I only find it hanging up on a cartridge about once in a round of about 50 shots, fine if you are just practicing. Certainly easier to clean the Benelli, only one barrel and no problem if it starts raining - it took me hours to fully dry and clean the woodwork etc on the Browning after being caught in a storm on a round of sporting. Spares/accessories for the Benelli -if you want the extended stock insert, it is about £60, the extended comb insert £40 . Try them both, it will confuse you even more and make you want to buy them both - it did to me, so I saved up and did Edited November 12, 2011 by Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I've got both, horses for courses. I love my Browning and it is my choice if I want to have a serious clay day, but I have to admit that that is simply because i have had it longer. My Benelli is tremendous fun and it certainly kicks differently to the O/U, feels less to me, but some people have shot it and said the kick is more than their O/U after only one shot! It all depends what you feel like on the day. Certainly for convenience, if I am shooting with several people, it can be a pain picking up the discards from the semi while people are waiting, when I can catch the empties from the O/U as I eject them. Howevre, when you really must have a heavier cartridge, you can really feel the difference. 28gm can leave me with a bit of soreness after 200+ cartridges on the O/U, but with the Benelli, the only soreness is from lifting the gun 200 + times, not from the recoil. Certainly easier to clean the Benelli, and no problem if it starts raining - it took me hours to fully dry and clean the woodwork etc on the Browning after being caught in a storm on a round of sporting Thanks for the input from yourself and the previous... I won't use the semi on comp DTL...will stick to the O/U for comp. Semi will be for recreational sessions over at High Lodge in Suffolk and any crop protection required from my farming friends. Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Oh dear!!...sorry, don't want to start a war.. :blink: So what's the difference between inertia and gas as regards recoil, cleaning, maintenance, etc?...not asking much, am I! Eric. Gas operated are generally softer shooting. Inertia guns are easier to clean. Don't forget the Remington 1100(or 1187), there's a reason they're still producing them after well over 40 years Edited November 12, 2011 by poontang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Gas operated are generally softer shooting. Inertia guns are easier to clean. Don't forget the Remington 1100(or 1187), there's a reason they're still producing them after well over 40 years But I want both easy cleaning and less recoil!!!! Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Try some inertia and gas guns and see I'd say inertia are more Marmite guns. good for rough and tumble though on the salt marsh pigeon hide etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I have both a Remington 1100 and a recently purchased fabarm XLR...fabarm every time. The technology in it, the look, the feel, proofed to HIGHEST pressure, 3" chambers, comes with a case and 4 chokes! Lots of add-ons available. People are wary of fabarm. I am putting money on them being big over the next year or two. They already are in Europe (problem with old importer here). Give it a go, that's all I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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