wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well I have a side by side Basque ten bore which I am considering geting bored out to an eight. What is the pros and cons of doing this?? Firstly I am unsure as to how much this costs? And can most gunsmiths do it or is it quite a specialist job? Second complication is cartridges. I'm 99% sure the gun is 3 1/2 inch chamber. I don't mind getting into reloading but how easy are bits and pieces to get? I was told the cartridges have to be brass?? Or do you get plastic? Secondly, what's the range of an eight vs the ten,(assuming lead shot inland in Scotland)? Although I like using it, I don't find the ten gives me much more than a 3 1/2" 12 bore. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Not saying it can't be done, but I have never heard of it. Not sure how thick your barrel walls are, but your talking about increaseing the bore by .065" Neil. Edited December 1, 2011 by Hornet 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Plastic 8 bore shells are quite common, you can go brass but don't have too... As for the re-bore I think it can be done but not sure about the 10-8 bore as I think it is usually 12-10 I have seen... Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I think it used to be common ish on Graylag 10 bores and the barrel walls where so think but not heard of it don't recently but woe have thought you want a really good smith or barrel maker. There are some guys on here Who can still make proper guns Sage 100 making custom specials and I think it was JRS who made fowling pieces. They should know better than most. Don't forget reproofing costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks for the replies guys, keep them coming The barrels are pretty damn thick! I assume that a change in gauge would mean the gunsmith would change the choke as well? Mine is half at the moment but I'd rather full & full Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 He would have to recut the choke forceing cones and chambers again so should be able to make any choke you want. PM me if you want Sage 100 details he' ll sort you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Technically it is`nt difficult to get a 10 bored out to something approaching an 8, the problem is that the proof house will no longer submit it for proof. A number of the earlier 10 to 8 rebores blew up in proof because the barrel walls were left too thin. Those that seem to have survived are not true 8`s and there are issues with some guns using plastic wads. True 8 bore components are available but very expensive but you have to remember that your gun won`t be a true 8. Properly fed,held straight and used by someone who has mastered the technique of long range shooting the difference in field performance between a 10 and even a supermag 12 is considerable. There is very little increase in performance between a 10 and a rebored 8. My personal suggestion would be, since you already have a functioning 10, get some loading equipment and advice on how to load and shoot high performance 10 guage cartridges. I`m pretty certain that, when you`ve discovered what a properly set up 10 can do in the right hands, you won`t want to go down the overboring route. Edited December 1, 2011 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks welsh warrior and mudpattern A side question would be then, how easy is it to change my ten from an open choke to a full&full? I believe it was probably opened up for someone to shoot steel in,(I only plan to use it inland with lead). I'm surprised you think there's much difference between the 12 and 10! I can get 66 gram lead 2's for the 12,(although I stick to 50g loads). Can't be much between a 66g 2 and a 3 1/2 ten shell? Really appreciate the replies guys didn't know that the re-proofed guns weren't a true 8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Teague should be able to quote you on re choking the gun http://www.teagueprecisionchokesltd.co.uk/ best give them a call making it MC would seem sensible that way you can have 2 Full chokes and the next owner 2 half for steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Teague should be able to quote you on re choking the gun http://www.teagueprecisionchokesltd.co.uk/ best give them a call making it MC would seem sensible that way you can have 2 Full chokes and the next owner 2 half for steel Cheers bud! I'll ask for a quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLLSEYES Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Stick with the 3 1/2" 12 bore mate,You can get the same load through it,the only advantage is the 10/8 patterns better.The supposingly spanish 8 bores that were made by boring a 10 were never quite a true 8 bore,they were more 9 bore,so with the cost of doing the job,the extra cost of cartridges/loading materials and the extra weight compared to the 12bore in my opinion its not worth it.I use a 31/2" chambered 12 bore o/u for everything and far better a gun you are familiar with.Its only my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Stick with the 3 1/2" 12 bore mate,You can get the same load through it,the only advantage is the 10/8 patterns better.The supposingly spanish 8 bores that were made by boring a 10 were never quite a true 8 bore,they were more 9 bore,so with the cost of doing the job,the extra cost of cartridges/loading materials and the extra weight compared to the 12bore in my opinion its not worth it.I use a 31/2" chambered 12 bore o/u for everything and far better a gun you are familiar with.Its only my opinion. Cheers for the reply! I've got both 3 1/2 twelve and a ten bore. The main difference is the ten isn't so quick for the teal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Cz, Where abouts in the N/E are you? Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigeon jim Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hi, I have both 10 and bored out 8 bore, Take my advice stick with the 10 bore you will get far better patterns and range, dont wast your money, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Thanks welsh warrior and mudpattern A side question would be then, how easy is it to change my ten from an open choke to a full&full? I believe it was probably opened up for someone to shoot steel in,(I only plan to use it inland with lead). I'm surprised you think there's much difference between the 12 and 10! I can get 66 gram lead 2's for the 12,(although I stick to 50g loads). Can't be much between a 66g 2 and a 3 1/2 ten shell? Really appreciate the replies guys didn't know that the re-proofed guns weren't a true 8! Are you shooting in scotland ? just seems a strange statement the your only going to use it inland with lead , shooting fowl with lead is illegal on foreshore or inland with lead in the uk and wales as far as I am aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Are you shooting in scotland ? just seems a strange statement the your only going to use it inland with lead , shooting fowl with lead is illegal on foreshore or inland with lead in the uk and wales as far as I am aware. Wales is in the UK so is Scotland I think fenboy means England and Wales!!!!!! 2 separate countries in the United Kingdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wales is in the UK so is Scotland I think fenboy means England and Wales!!!!!! 2 separate countries in the United Kingdom Well done you passed the geography teaser I set , top marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Hi, I have both 10 and bored out 8 bore, Take my advice stick with the 10 bore you will get far better patterns and range, dont wast your money, Jim. Thanks for the opinion Jim I might just add a tighter choke on the ten so then so I get a better pattern further out The 8 bore is looking like a no-goer now! Cheers! Wales is in the UK so is Scotland I think fenboy means England and Wales!!!!!! 2 separate countries in the United Kingdom Sorry it's for use in Scotland inland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flightpond Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Cheers for the reply! I've got both 3 1/2 twelve and a ten bore. The main difference is the ten isn't so quick for the teal Absolutely sppot on I have both as well and I find exactly the same I hardly ever use my 10 bore as it is too heavy to swing after anything fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I hardly ever use my 10 bore as it is too heavy to swing after anything fast You need to get rid of that.........really cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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