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I accept what you are saying but I wouldn't go vastly out of my way to fit in. You'll be off to saville row next for a tweed jacket and plus fours.

 

An O/U is perfectly acceptable on a driven day as you will find out when you go. And I am quite sure that if you only had a semi and you asked it would be fine. I know there is a dislike about the safety of them as it is not obvious whether they are safe but a breech flag and carrying them in a slip unless you are shooting and there no issue.

 

If I was going to the opera with an important client then no I wouldn't wear a string vest and tracksuit trousers, neither would I nip off to Moss Bros for a DJ and Bow tie.

 

I am about as far from being a socialist as you can get. :oops::lol:

 

Cheers

 

Martin

 

No offence meant or taken

 

Hi Martin

 

I would even say that O/U are as common on formal shoots as s-b-s nowadays.

 

However, if anyone turned up with a semi on a driven day (unless it was with a gang of mates) then you would be asked to leave.

 

If it was a formal driven day and you asked to bring a semi along, then I think that the invite would be withdrawn.

 

Sad you may consider, but true.

 

Don

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Mungler

 

I keep a SxS Ugartechea for game shoots. It cost me £160, and is a good solid gun.

 

I agree that it is a fact that autos are unwelcome at formal shoots, but not with the principle.

 

I disagree, however, that an AL391 is the "white trainer" of the shotgun world. This is simply due to the fact that I outshoot by a mile my game shooting friends every time whilst using my Urika at pigeons and clays, andit is simply a better gun than a lot of theirs.

 

Ge yourself a SxS which fits you and go along. You may like it, you may not. Dont be surprised though if there are a few businessmen wo shoot twice a year and who cant hit a bull in the **** with a bass banjo who mock your gun smply because theirs cost more.

 

Pete

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Personally speaking I think formal driven game shoots (which I do not do a lot of these days but used to shoot on some of the best in the country) demand some respect for tradition. Turning up on a formal driven day with a semi auto (one of my favourite guns in the right place) is a big no no and if someone did have the ignorance to do so I'm pretty sure there would be words spoken.

 

Dress code too, if only to show some respect for your quarry. Even when bog hopping after snipe my friends and I generally dress up not down.

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On the driven shooting theme, if you flick through Shooting Times and Shooting Gazette, the split between Guns pictured using OUs and SBSs is roughly 50-50. Admittedly a fair few OU uses pictured were double-gunning with Browning B25s and Beretta SOs.

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I would agree with Baldrick, I beat on a fairly serious partridge/pheasant shoot and although some teams turn up all with SBS's, about half the rest use O/U's.

 

So the O/U has made it's way into the 'acceptable' list maybe in years to come the semi will too, but I can't see it just yet...

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Personally speaking I think formal driven game shoots (which I do not do a lot of these days but used to shoot on some of the best in the country) demand some respect for tradition. Turning up on a formal driven day with a semi auto (one of my favourite guns in the right place) is a big no no and if someone did have the ignorance to do so I'm pretty sure there would be words spoken.

 

Dress code too, if only to show some respect for your quarry. Even when bog hopping after snipe my friends and I generally dress up not down.

Wise words , well spoken! :oops::lol::lol:

 

Ft

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Traditionally people do use a side by side and there's nowt wrong with a bit of tradition in sport IMHO. I've got a very nice Sabel Sidelock Ejector 12 bore game gun that's hardy been used, it was in my late Father's collection, he bought it new and refinished the stock to a very high standard (he was a gunsmith).

 

I'm not going to use it as it's a right handed gun and I use a rather nice Rosson boxlock that I also inherited when I get invited to shoot "long tailed rabbits".

 

Let me know if interested and I'll try and sort some piccies.

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Traditionally people do use a side by side and there's nowt wrong with a bit of tradition in sport IMHO. I've got a very nice Sabel Sidelock Ejector 12 bore game gun that's hardy been used, it was in my late Father's collection, he bought it new and refinished the stock to a very high standard (he was a gunsmith).

 

I'm not going to use it as it's a right handed gun and I use a rather nice Rosson boxlock that I also inherited when I get invited to shoot "long tailed rabbits".

 

Let me know if interested and I'll try and sort some piccies.

 

 

 

I'm looking to buy a Rosson. Superb guns, just hard to track down. IIRC, Rosson was bought by Gallyons & Sons (my local gunsmith in Norfolk) in the late 1960s. Please do post some piccies of the Rosson and the Sabel!

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Lord Geordie

 

It looks a good buy for the money but I am afraid if someone has told you its English you have been misled, as I am afraid it was definitely not made in this country.

 

Well it has Sussex of ENGLAND engraved in the barrels :yp:

 

English enough for me :D

 

LG

 

 

Like ballpoint pens Lord Geordie you can have your name put on anything.

Sorry.

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Lord Geordie

 

It looks a good buy for the money but I am afraid if someone has told you its English you have been misled, as I am afraid it was definitely not made in this country.

 

Well it has Sussex of ENGLAND engraved in the barrels :yp:

 

English enough for me :D

 

LG

 

 

Like ballpoint pens Lord Geordie you can have your name put on anything.

Sorry.

 

Probably Spanish I'd say, made for the UK market. Looks like a varnished stock and forend but nevertheless still a sidelock I guess.

 

I tried an AYA No2 sidelock, single trigger selector and it was a lovely gun in near mint condition, wish I'd bought it at the time but I've only got so much room ;-)).

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I keep having my attention swayed from old English sidelocks by the numerous AYA No 2/Ugartachea sidelocks on show in my local gunsmith. I accept that the newer Spanish guns would last much longer and are technically more advanced (and are much better value) than the English boxlocks, but the Spanish guns don't look quite as traditional. Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of people who use AYAs on driven days, but I'd rather blend in with a well-used English gun.

 

The cheapest AYA No 2 on Guntrader now looks to be at £995. The only single trigger version is about £1500?

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Hmm

 

Having read my post from last night, I realise it comes across a bit more vitriolic than it was meant to...

 

I agree entirely with the whole standards argument, I just sometimes feel that some gameshooters, like some huntsmen make a bit of an easy target of themselves for the anti's and class warriors be being a little too jingoistic and exclusive.

 

Pete

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Hmm

 

Having read my post from last night, I realise it comes across a bit more vitriolic than it was meant to...

 

I agree entirely with the whole standards argument, I just sometimes feel that some gameshooters, like some huntsmen make a bit of an easy target of themselves for the anti's and class warriors be being a little too jingoistic and exclusive.

 

Pete

 

Jingoistic and exclusive !!! cheeky sod ;-)))) Just off trout fishing in my string vest and trainers. Probably wear my cammo coat and take my coarse fishing seat box as well, that really ****** of the purists. Mind you I don't really understand purism when it comes to fishing a reservoir for stocked rainbows ??. It is jolly spiffing fun though old bean. Toodle pip !!

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