Humour_me Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hi guys I've got a question that's been confusing me and my father in law for some time now and wondered if any of you have an answer. I recently got my shotgun certificate about a year ago and at the time was living in a flat with my girlfriend. The flat was rented and I couldnt put a cabinet in so as my girlfriends parents only live down the road and the father shoots so I used his safe. When I asked the FEO about keys she said I wasnt allowed any as it's wasn't my cabinet and I didn't live there so I have made do. Last month we moved into the parents house to live. I sent off my certificate for a change of address and received a call today to come and check security. I asked about the key situation again and was told he will talk to me when he comes. Does any one know for definite can I have my own set of keys to the safe as I now live here and my gun is in there? How can it be father in law can access my gun but I can't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 has he just got sgc or fac as well .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 It's a tricky one but fairly common situation different forces have different rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) I had the similar situation when I lived at my dad’s farm then moved out but left my guns there. GMP did not have a problem with us both having access to the safe (even when I left) but all the guns stored in that safe had to be entered onto both licences. So If I bought or changed my gun it also had to be entered onto my father’s licence and vice versa. Edited December 10, 2011 by timps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicehorn Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Probably talking out of my a** but my understanding of your present situation is that your father in law will have to add your shotgun to his certificte to comply and in turn his shotgun(s) will have to go on yours for you to be able to have access. However if he has rifles in the same cabinet, then you are stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humour_me Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 No, doesn't have fire arms only shotgun. I only ask as every time I have asked I seem to get varying answers or no answer at all. Seems they are just making it up in the spot half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 my mrs shares my sg cab and has no access to fac cab . we are both sgc holders and that is fine with norfolk police . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 if he has a rifle in it,then you cant go in it,but if just shotguns i dont see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 My wife an I have this we both have each others gun on the other ticket and have a set of keys each simples. My rifles live in a different cabinet and my wife has no key to that one. 2 Users 2 sets of keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidment78 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Would it just be easier to buy a second cabinet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Would it just be easier to buy a second cabinet? Cost a lot more sharing a cabinet is free uses less space and is total legal so why spend more cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 When Son of Potter lived here we shared a cabinet, the question of key holder was never asked either as a question from us or as a statement from the FEO. It never crossed my mind the SoP wouldn't or shouldn't have his own key and therefore access to the cabinet. One thing I did ask, on more than one occasion, was did they (Cheshire) want my guns on SoP's certificate and his gun on mine? Definitely no, not necessary at all will only give a false figure for the number of guns in circulation was the response each time I inquired. The original poster should, if the lack of access to his gun(s) was an issue, have appealed to the Chief Constable if the FiL trusted you to have access to the cabinet the Police should. A SGC doesn't, as far as I am aware, have levels of access, your cert was just the same as your FiL's. By virtue of the fact the cabinet was in his house he had free access to your gun, what's so different that you couldn't have access to his even if it meant putting each others guns on each others tickets. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 my brothers shotgun is in my cabinet mainly as hes a cheap scate (and keeps moving) and he very rarely goes shooting without me. when i applied for my fac was told he could not have access but never had a problem with one sgc holder to another having keys to cabinet, remember you can lend your guns out to sgc holders so cant see the problem if you have keys,id give the basc or similar a call they will know more then most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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