durbsguy Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Evening all. My grandfather has kindly offered me his collection of guns, as his father was into the big game hunting. It's was bought new in 1920. The problem is it is in South Africa. I understand to get a fire arms licence for it you have to either belong to a club or have land to shoot on. Every club I have spoken to has said the gun is too big to shoot there. Is it at all possible to get licence for it. I was thinking that as I am already in the process of bringing across his pair of H&H shotguns would I be able to say that it is part of a collection? I don't want to lose this gun due to sentimental reasons. Any advice would be much appreciated. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Evening all. My grandfather has kindly offered me his collection of guns, as his father was into the big game hunting. It's was bought new in 1920. The problem is it is in South Africa. I understand to get a fire arms licence for it you have to either belong to a club or have land to shoot on. Every club I have spoken to has said the gun is too big to shoot there. Is it at all possible to get licence for it. I was thinking that as I am already in the process of bringing across his pair of H&H shotguns would I be able to say that it is part of a collection? I don't want to lose this gun due to sentimental reasons. Any advice would be much appreciated. Adrian Getting a first time grant for .375H&H may be a touch difficult. Especially if you have no prior experience with firearms or calibres of this... calibre. You may be better off finding someone to hold onto this gun in SA until you have a legitimate reason to hold it in the UK. Sentimentality is not a legitimate reason sadly. Best of luck, but don't hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) You need to speak to your region and get some advice, it isn't an antique and the ammo is still made, shotguns are easy in comparison, I don't know the answer to the rifle! Edit These are Bisley (Military Range) limits and the rifle gets in under the HME Limits but not in the normal course of events! d Limits as to Calibre, Muzzle Velocity and Muzzle Energy No firearm and ammunition combination which develops a muzzle energy exceeding 7000 J (5160 ft lb) may be used on any of the Bisley ranges without the specific permission of the CE which must be sought in writing well in advance of the planned use. The following specific limits apply: i for Rifle ranges, no specific calibre limitation but: a maximum muzzle velocity of 1000 m/s (3280 ft/s) and a maximum muzzle energy of 4500 J (3319 ft lb); ii for Gallery Rifle and Pistol ranges, no specific calibre limitation but: a maximum muzzle velocity of 655 m/s (2150 ft/s) and a maximum muzzle energy of 2030 J (1496 ft lb). 26th August 2011 iii for High Muzzle Energy (HME) firearms (see sub-para g below) the limits are: a maximum muzzle velocity of 1000 m/s (3280 ft/s) and a maximum muzzle energy of 7000 J (5160 ft lb); In this case, special zeroing procedures are required as explained in regulation 2gi below. Edited February 3, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 RFD and then get it de-activated?? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 A RFD could "Hold" it for the future, if you get a FAC and experience in the future you could apply to have a .375 for safari to Africa for Plains and dangerous Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'm sure there is some licence to enable people to own firearms in cases like this, but for collection only I.e not permitted to buy ammunition or ever use it? Maybe just for trophy's of war icant quite remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 RFD and then get it de-activated?? Just a thought. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Cheers Guys. I have had a fair amount of exposure to it as I've been shooting with it for the last 10 years. I have the opportunity for my uncle to hold on to it but if I could find a RFD that would look after it for me might be a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Agreed, it would be a crime to do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 RFD and then get it de-activated?? Just a thought. eeeeeeek! :o Some ranges have a very generous muzzle limit so i would advise contacting some.Provided the gun can be used on a particular range the Police wont have a problem with you owning it provided you're a paid up full member.You are however required to use the rife a few times a year to warrant owning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepulchre Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Evening all. My grandfather has kindly offered me his collection of guns, as his father was into the big game hunting. It's was bought new in 1920. The problem is it is in South Africa. I understand to get a fire arms licence for it you have to either belong to a club or have land to shoot on. Every club I have spoken to has said the gun is too big to shoot there. Is it at all possible to get licence for it. I was thinking that as I am already in the process of bringing across his pair of H&H shotguns would I be able to say that it is part of a collection? I don't want to lose this gun due to sentimental reasons. Any advice would be much appreciated. Adrian Me I would have the gun shipped to a RFD, and for the love of all things sexy DO NOT have it de-activated, at the very least sell it and by something meaningful with the money....like another gun and love it just as you would your grandfathers Edited February 3, 2012 by sepulchre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 RFD and then get it de-activated?? Just a thought. Go on, do it and post some pics!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepulchre Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Go on, do it and post some pics!!!! Now thats just antagonistic ! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Don't get it de-activated it is 'legal' to use on most military ranges. Lots of these military ranges are rented out to civilian clubs at weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Two options for providing 'good reason' 1. join a club where it can be used 2. book yourself a trip where you could use it. Big game best but there are people over on the SD with .375H&H conditioned for deer. Some red or sika stalking booked may be enough for your region. Don't have it deactivated. Hope you have a sensible police force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Also worth contact Hollands for advice there may be a H&H Club or collectors club that can advise on UK justification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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