archiebald Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) hi all i have been using the hushpower baikal .410 for lamping and really love it, however i would like to have a little bit more range while shooting during the day without making too much noise (the s/s 12 bore empties my permission for a good hour) and so i was wondering if anyone on here has any experience with them. there is one in my local gun shop (a pedretti) but iv also seen a baikal hushpower 12 bore for sale too. what sort of noise levels would be expected from theese in comparison to the hushpower .410? and also would you consider the hushpower 12 bore ok for the very occasional close range fox and if so to what range? many thanks archiebold. Edited February 14, 2012 by archiebald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 apparently they are quite loud,if you can get the investarm 20b thay are quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 They still make a fair bang, but don't disturb things a few hundred yards away. I don't know how smart the average pigeon is, but I've seen them lift off a field after a shot and settle at the other end of a big field. I've also seen them feeding whilst a gasgun is going off in the next field, so if a Hushpower can make them thing someone is shooting a mile away instead of 200yds away that has to be good. The .410 versions are really quiet, but the 12 is much more powerful and cheaper to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The trouble is you just can't see these things in action to make a judgement. I mean nobody seems to bring one over to the clay shoots , which is kind of odd really as that's the first thing I would do to see where it shoots etc. A few months ago a young lad who works at Greenfields was shooting his 410 pump with a normal silencer on the end (not the full shrouded job) and it was so incredibly quiet I was amazed when he said he was using 3" shells. Wasn't too keen on lending it to me though for some pigeon shooting appraisals :lol: . One of these days I'm going to buy a 12 gauge and be done although I don't cherish the thought of shooting felt wads through it much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Gould Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) i use a 20g mossberg pump hushpower realy good gun and choked superbly for rabbits i didnt realy rate the .410 hushpower what i had previous i found it very limited what it could do, i also thought a 12g one would be just too loud. 30g 5's through my 20g huspower is a rabbits nightmare i use this kit more than my hmr it's that effective Edited February 14, 2012 by Matt Gould Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The trouble is you just can't see these things in action to make a judgement. I mean nobody seems to bring one over to the clay shoots , which is kind of odd really as that's the first thing I would do to see where it shoots etc. A few months ago a young lad who works at Greenfields was shooting his 410 pump with a normal silencer on the end (not the full shrouded job) and it was so incredibly quiet I was amazed when he said he was using 3" shells. Wasn't too keen on lending it to me though for some pigeon shooting appraisals :lol: . One of these days I'm going to buy a 12 gauge and be done although I don't cherish the thought of shooting felt wads through it much. Hamster if you want to borrow my hushy ur welcome too,i took mine to challock once,created a lot of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Had a Pedretti Hushpower 12g for some years,loud to the user especially if noise bounces back from woods/walls but doesn't seem to clear area of rabbits like normal shotgun.Hardest factor is availability of good subsonic carts(I load my own).I think if I was starting again I would probably go for a 20g but the 12g is a handy tool,even knocking the edge off noise of normal carts & easing recoil on fox loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've rolled a few foxes stone dead at 20ish yards with 28grams of subsonic no6. There's a lot of pellets hitting it at that kind of range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've rolled a few foxes stone dead at 20ish yards with 28grams of subsonic no6. There's a lot of pellets hitting it at that kind of range. yup i dropped one at same range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hamster if you want to borrow my hushy ur welcome too,i took mine to challock once,created a lot of interest Cheers for that , I would just like to hear one being used one day but don't doubt they have to be useful on some pigeon forays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thanks for the replies guys great help, they deffinately sound like they could be useful! iv asked my local gun shop and they have not heared of subsonic carts for theese so i see what you mean drut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thanks for the replies guys great help, they deffinately sound like they could be useful! iv asked my local gun shop and they have not heared of subsonic carts for theese so i see what you mean drut. I have a single barrel baikal 12g hush power I use 32g no 6 Eley subsonic carts. Incredibly quiet and very impressive gun when you need to be discreet (I find it a great crow gun). My local RFD Gilsans in Leyburn stock the subsonic carts with no bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth6568 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 A year ago I use to control the vermin on a 600 acre country estate. One of the guns I used was a hushpower 12g single barrel. These guns are great, use to patrol the woods shooting grey squirrels all day, use to take a friend with an air rifle as a back up for static difficult shots. The noise is very quite. I use to home load sub sonic ammo for the foxes and spent many a day hiding up trees shooting them at around twenty yards. Very effective! I would pattern test your ammo so you know where your centre of spread is. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codit75 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I have a 12g s/b pedretti Hushpower and use it for pigeons on one of my permissions, it's much quieter than my 12g lamber sporter, well worth having is noise is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 all subs pattern "hotcore" its because they are slower and less shot is deformed. i can say shoot a decent shotsize, i picked a #4, mv of 1000, would still be as powerful at 40 yards as a 6 at 1500fps. and it will still be patterning tight. shot, is shot, just buy the bigger shot and have "less" limitations. after a couple of hits, you wont go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I use the normal cartridges in the baikal. Can't hit ANYTHING with the subsonic carts. How much more lead do the targets require with subs? I fine that the baikal does make a fair difference, even with standard shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 depends on distance. distance isnt subsonics friend. hence the larger shotsize. especially for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi drut i really like the look of that sight on your hushpower what sight is it?and how did you attatch it may i ask? Cheers archiebald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi drut i really like the look of that sight on your hushpower what sight is it?and how did you attatch it may i ask? Cheers archiebald Sight is Hawke 1x30 sport red dot fixed on "ebay" weaver rail,I drilled/tapped silencer collar to mount one end used "JB Weld" to fix to silencer:can still unscrew OK to clean.Originally I used an old "Singlepoint" sight but find the Hawke much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bessbud1 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 hi i use eley hush power subsonic 67mm n.6 shot 32gram v tight pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Cheers for the information drut interesting set up you got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codit75 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 hi i use eley hush power subsonic 67mm n.6 shot 32gram v tight pat I also use these Carts, they are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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