One man and his lab Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Tuesdays is a night when we go dog training with a group and with the professional trainer. Good night really working on the dog's taking a better line for the retrieve, and she did well one mistake but she does have a rather annoying habit of low level whining now and again, but we're working on that. We set up a blind retrieve on a rabbit dummy and everyone does resonably well, then the last dog picks up the rabbit dummy and runs out the barn with owner in hot pursuit, all you can hear is cursing and whistling. Then he comes back after about 5 minutes with dog but no dummy, lost it and can't find it. A few spaniels search for it but no luck, I eye this as a chance to put another tick in the Lab column as the best gundog. Low and behold I send her out to look for it and a few minutes searching out she comes from under a tractor with the dummy, "Good dog", pat on the head and a job well done. You have to take these moments as it could be me next time. Proof Labs are better than spaniels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Tuesdays is a night when we go dog training with a group and with the professional trainer. Good night really working on the dog's taking a better line for the retrieve, and she did well one mistake but she does have a rather annoying habit of low level whining now and again, but we're working on that. We set up a blind retrieve on a rabbit dummy and everyone does resonably well, then the last dog picks up the rabbit dummy and runs out the barn with owner in hot pursuit, all you can hear is cursing and whistling. Then he comes back after about 5 minutes with dog but no dummy, lost it and can't find it. A few spaniels search for it but no luck, I eye this as a chance to put another tick in the Lab column as the best gundog. Low and behold I send her out to look for it and a few minutes searching out she comes from under a tractor with the dummy, "Good dog", pat on the head and a job well done. You have to take these moments as it could be me next time. Proof Labs are better than spaniels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Typical Lab,and typical Lab owner.Says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louis682 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Tuesdays is a night when we go dog training with a group and with the professional trainer. Good night really working on the dog's taking a better line for the retrieve, and she did well one mistake but she does have a rather annoying habit of low level whining now and again, but we're working on that. We set up a blind retrieve on a rabbit dummy and everyone does resonably well, then the last dog picks up the rabbit dummy and runs out the barn with owner in hot pursuit, all you can hear is cursing and whistling. Then he comes back after about 5 minutes with dog but no dummy, lost it and can't find it. A few spaniels search for it but no luck, I eye this as a chance to put another tick in the Lab column as the best gundog. Low and behold I send her out to look for it and a few minutes searching out she comes from under a tractor with the dummy, "Good dog", pat on the head and a job well done. You have to take these moments as it could be me next time. Proof Labs are better than spaniels : Where are these training sessions mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm with sako on this one Labs are easy to train seen plenty of good lab handlers but give them a spaniel not so cleaver then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not saying either breed is better as they are completely different but i have a little story from this year that made me laugh. We were beating on the shoot owners invitation day, where instead of the usual 8 drives we do as many as possible before the light gives out, normally about 10-11. A chap turns up in the morning to beat with two springers, he is full of his self from minute 1 and tells us how great his dogs are and how the shoot captain has asked him to come to get as many birds up as possible. Everything goes well the first drive, when we appear at the end of the drive i notice 1 of his dogs on the lead and he looked a bit nervous, thought it was strange but didn't think anymore about it. 2nd drive was a long cover strip that the guns normally line up about 30 yards from, infront of a wood/scrub area that is another drive. This day we were pushing through the cover strip quietly and pushing the birds into the wood and then beating straight through with the guns stood at the end of the wood. Mr Spaniel is still bigging his dogs up, and when the keeper asks us to start pushing through QUIETLY he lets his dogs off, they go mental and scream around the cover crop putting about 30 birds up, all going straight on the wing in the wrong direction!! Not happy at that they chase a bird into the wood and tear that up with birds going everywhere, the keeper said about 70 birds came out, not 1 going over the guns. We went through it anyway and the guns had 6 pheasants, where we would normally have about 50 from the 2 drives. Mr Spaniel is sent packing by the keeper with a few choice words following him. Later on that day we end up almost back at the start when a gun asks me to pick a cock bird that dropped in the wood that forms part of the first drive, i enter the wood and send the dog to look for the pheasant, i am stood there looking around when i notice a few feathers under a big hawthorn bush, getting closer they are gold? closer again it becomes clear why Mr spaniel was looking a bit nervy at the end of his first drive, tucked into the bush was a guinea fowl and one of the shoot owners prized golden pheasants. Needless to say he has never been back again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 did I forget to mention it was a Lab that ran off with the dummy in the first place, whoops I really know each dog has it's place Training sessions are in Tonbridge area with Chris Burns, who owns Breezeleaf Spaniels you can find him easily online. Great guy who really knows his dogs, he is mainly Spaniels but has worked Labs also so he knows his stuff. Also if you go on youtube he did some work for Shooting times I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom&Dexter Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hear we go again I have seen plenty labs behave as above Infact more labs as people think they are easyer to train so more get them, fact is most people with this attitude would fail to train anything they get They are two different breeds end of story. My 10 month Old cocker will knock spots of some labs I have seen this means nothing at all nor is it a reflection of the breeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hear we go again I have seen plenty labs behave as above Infact more labs as people think they are easyer to train so more get them, fact is most people with this attitude would fail to train anything they get They are two different breeds end of story. My 10 month Old cocker will knock spots of some labs I have seen this means nothing at all nor is it a reflection of the breeds I somtimes forget on these forums that people cannot accept a little joke and if you read on you would know I appreciate this, people really have to gain a sense of humour, otherwise this sort of forum becomes pointless. If you bothered to read my last post you would have seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hear we go again I have seen plenty labs behave as above Infact more labs as people think they are easyer to train so more get them, fact is most people with this attitude would fail to train anything they get They are two different breeds end of story. My 10 month Old cocker will knock spots of some labs I have seen this means nothing at all nor is it a reflection of the breeds Like i started my post, neither dog breed is better as they are completely different. Both breeds have there good, bad and average members. That was just a story that i remembered reading the thread. Could have just as easily been a Lab/cocker/vizsla/terrier/setter........... Wasn't a dig at a breed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Typical Lab,and typical Lab owner.Says it all really. :lol: :lol: love a bit off urine taking !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 :lol: :lol: love a bit off urine taking !! am sure fenton was a springador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 am sure fenton was a springador Hahahahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I agree, looked nothing like a lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) what alot of bull the ess were s h i te thats all Edited February 16, 2012 by hutchie the white hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 what alot of bull the ess were s h i te thats all odd comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Question. What sort of trainer allows a guy to chase a dog running off with a retrieve? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Question. What sort of trainer allows a guy to chase a dog running off with a retrieve? :o The dog was being deliberatly defiant and therefore the handler needed to get out to the dog and challenge that behaviour in order to stop it happening again, which prooved to have worked well on the very next retrieve. The dog got very excited with the rabbit dummy in the first place and was a young dog. I know the word chase in dog handling is a big no, so perhaps I should have chosen a better one. The trainer has trained many many really good dogs and handlers has a very good reputation which I personally wouldn't want to ruin or have people who have only a simple sensationalised description of the situation to bring into question. My fault for an oversimplified and whimsical explanation, apologies for that. This thread was for a bit of a laugh and nothing more than that. Edited February 18, 2012 by One man and his lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Once again a light hearted thread attacked by the humorless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Once again a light hearted thread attacked by the humorless It's alright i heard that pigeon watch was soon to have a name change to Grumpy old men watch Saying that its my last flight tonight so i will soon be drawn to the grumpy side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Lets be honest, if you cant train a lab you should just give up owning dogs altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Lets be honest, if you cant train a lab you should just give up owning dogs altogether You haven't met mine then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) It's alright i heard that pigeon watch was soon to have a name change to Grumpy old men watch Saying that its my last flight tonight so i will soon be drawn to the grumpy side Edited February 18, 2012 by One man and his lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The dog was being deliberatly defiant and therefore the handler needed to get out to the dog and challenge that behaviour in order to stop it happening again, which prooved to have worked well on the very next retrieve. The dog got very excited with the rabbit dummy in the first place and was a young dog. I know the word chase in dog handling is a big no, so perhaps I should have chosen a better one. The trainer has trained many many really good dogs and handlers has a very good reputation which I personally wouldn't want to ruin or have people who have only a simple sensationalised description of the situation to bring into question. My fault for an oversimplified and whimsical explanation, apologies for that. This thread was for a bit of a laugh and nothing more than that. Sorry when you said " chased by the owner cursing and wistling" i thought you meant thats what actually happened - silly me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Once again a light hearted thread attacked by the humorless Says it all I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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