PotHunter96 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 hi all fed up with the vulcan i dont know if its the seal or what but as in my previous post the power is knackerd at 25 yards sometimes it shoots through cans sometimes it dents them dont no if i have the heart to carry on with the piece of **** i was supposed to be getting a scope for ity sometime soon but dont know if its worth it now dont no whether to save up for another gun but that would take a while and im supposed to be controlling rabbits... honestley makes me want to give up airgun shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchy Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 webley vulcan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 webley vulcan? yes webley vulcan .22 also i shot at a 12oo page phone book and it continued to do damage up to about page 140 is this bad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchy Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 same problem i had i got a bsa meteor given it was realy old and i cocked it 2make sure theres nothing in the barrel" then put your finger over the barrel and press the trigger and if air comes out of the breach new seal needed and when you take your finger off if the air escapes then iys the spring i would say i jsut bought aOX spring and a new breach seal the seal is 99p ox spring is £15.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 same problem i had i got a bsa meteor given it was realy old and i cocked it 2make sure theres nothing in the barrel" then put your finger over the barrel and press the trigger and if air comes out of the breach new seal needed and when you take your finger off if the air escapes then iys the spring i would say i jsut bought aOX spring and a new breach seal the seal is 99p ox spring is £15.99 im sorry i dont follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 kitch is saying (i think) that a possible cause could be the breach seal, he is saying that to see if this is the problem cock the gun making sure that the barrel is clear, then close it and place your finger tightly over the end of the barrel, if air comes out the breach (ie the gap between the mainspring tube and the barrel where the pellet is placed, then you need a new breach seal, this is just one idea though, the malfunctions could be due to a variety of reasons, take it to a competant gunsmith and ask him to give it the once over and a tune up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchy Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i got a quote for £40 just too take it to bits so i though no il jsut buy the parts myself and it solved it one day it was shooting fine and i put a piece of chewing gun on the breach seal and it fired full power but a little bit low so i jsut thought hmmm them ent out and bought all the stuff i needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Don't bin the Vulcan it's a cracker! Run the tests to see if breach seal is shot and work from there. Then get the gas ram trust me it's worth it (IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 yes webley vulcan .22 also i shot at a 12oo page phone book and it continued to do damage up to about page 140 is this bad?? you might have reached the page that advertises bullet proof vests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 did the test and couldnt really tell??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 same problem i had i got a bsa meteor given it was realy old and i cocked it 2make sure theres nothing in the barrel" then put your finger over the barrel and press the trigger and if air comes out of the breach new seal needed and when you take your finger off if the air escapes then iys the spring i would say i jsut bought aOX spring and a new breach seal the seal is 99p ox spring is £15.99 Only a complete idiot would recomend this as a test you fit the bill im afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Only a complete idiot would recomend this as a test you fit the bill im afraid :unsure: yes i realized after i had done it that it can damage guns but im desperate as a farm i9 shoot on desperatley needs rabbit control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Get it serviced, mate. A decent 'smith will have it back to it's former glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I fail to see how putting your finger over the end of the barrel and firing the gun is stupid-I've seen plenty of well known gunsmiths do it-it only gets stupid if you fail to check that the gun is not loaded.Normal technique is to push your finger down hard and fire the gun-count 2 seconds and release-if you hear a puff of air then the breach seal is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Right mate a few basics on air rifles .Firstly the ONLY way to check the out put of an air-rifle is to use a chrono,not a telephone book,bar of soap,argos catalogue or anything else .Remember if the Police ever check your gun and its over the 12 ft/lbs limit you risk a spell at Her Majestys for owning a section 1 firearm,and they always prosecute for this one. There is also the issue of respect for your quarry in using good reliable equipment set to the correct power level to ensure as quick and humane a kill as possible. Next breech seal testing ,the correct way to test for breech seal leakage is as follows,cock and load the gun as normal ,then sprinkle some talcum powder over the breech-barrel joint now fire the gun (in a safe place with the back stop sorted out)if any talc blows up from the joint then the seal needs replacing.NEVER NEVER dry fire a springer. As for sticking your finger over the end of the barrel,dont even think about it for any number of reasons mainly the damage you can and will cause to the face of the piston . Spring actioned air guns depend on the resistance offered by the pellet to prevent the piston face smashing into the end of the compression chamber thus damaging the piston face. I would agree with the other guys on here when they say get it to a gunsmith to sort out, the Webley Vulcan is a good gun and well worth the few quid getting refurbished will cost. Good Luck Edited March 7, 2012 by Jega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 jega you nailed it in one mate well said :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 you might have reached the page that advertises bullet proof vests. noone else find that funny, thought it was rather good :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Only a complete idiot would recomend this as a test you fit the bill im afraid Totally agree with this statement..... not a clever thing to do Right mate a few basics on air rifles .Firstly the ONLY way to check the out put of an air-rifle is to use a chrono,not a telephone book,bar of soap,argos catalogue or anything else .Remember if the Police ever check your gun and its over the 12 ft/lbs limit you risk a spell at Her Majestys for owning a section 1 firearm,and they always prosecute for this one.There is also the issue of respect for your quarry in using good reliable equipment set to the correct power level to ensure as quick and humane a kill as possible.Next breech seal testing ,the correct way to test for breech seal leakage is as follows,cock and load the gun as normal ,then sprinkle some talcum powder over the breech-barrel joint now fire the gun (in a safe place with the back stop sorted out)if any talc blows up from the joint then the seal needs replacing.NEVER NEVER dry fire a springer.As for sticking your finger over the end of the barrel,dont even think about it for any number of reasons mainly the damage you can and will cause to the face of the piston .Spring actioned air guns depend on the resistance offered by the pellet to prevent the piston face smashing into the end of the compression chamber thus damaging the piston face.I would agree with the other guys on here when they say get it to a gunsmith to sort out, the Webley Vulcan is a good gun and well worth the few quid getting refurbished will cost. Good Luck bingo! some sense..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy draper Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 http://www.gunspares.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=24557&cat=Vulcan+MK+3# have a look here mate,not exactly a stripdown guide,but shows you all the bits and where they go plus prices.Don't be scared of having a go,save money and great satisfaction at doing it yourself.You don't need any special tools,the spring will not take your hand off just be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 http://www.gunspares.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=24557&cat=Vulcan+MK+3# have a look here mate,not exactly a stripdown guide,but shows you all the bits and where they go plus prices.Don't be scared of having a go,save money and great satisfaction at doing it yourself.You don't need any special tools,the spring will not take your hand off just be careful. Thats good advice Andy ,its probably the most effective way to get to know your gun,so if it goes wrong or plays up again you'll know pretty much what needs sorting. If you find your getting out of your depth, just ask on here theres loads of guys to help you out mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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