barraboy Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 i am thinking of buying a semi auto for pigeons and fowling on the marsh. but am unsure of what to go for. i generally shoot beretta [i have a 687 SP4, and a 686E] and so was tempted by an xtrema2, but i have heard good things about the baikal, which is almost half the price. so, i am looking for advice on which i should opt for, or any alternatives. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm certainly no expert but my AL-391 Urika has never let me down and as I managed to get it second hand for £340, its was a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I've had my eye on the Benelli Super Black Eagle and was hoping to get one at the CLA game fair but couldn't get a left hander without waiting upto 3 months. I did however buy a Benelli Montefeltro semi. I'm absolutely chuffed with it. It shoots lovely looks far better than most other semis I've seen. I've shot pigeons every day with it and think its fantastic, I shoot it much better than I do my Beretta SP3. The only downside is that it is a light gun and so the recoil is a bit stiff with magnum ammo. But for clays and general rough shooting it is ideal. It is recoil operated as opposed to gas and so cleaning it is very quick and easy. The felt recoil on shooting is no more than shooting a gas operated gun, although everyone feels recoil differently. Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 what about the new webley semi automatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Try mounting them and see the difference. When I was looking for mine I tried the escort 3.5" magnum but found them a bit short in the stock. Tried the Baikal and found it was like a tank gun, very heavy and unballanced with heavy muzzle. Tried the Xtrema and thats what I bought, I have had it about 10 months now, but had a look at a couple of o/u 28" barrel 3.5" guns at the CLA and was tempted for a swap. Problem with the 3.5" is that even with a 38" barrell it has a 3.5" ejection port plus place to slide the breech in to ect ect and its a very long gun. My 28" 3.5 is longer that my sons 303 30" barrelled 3" auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Go for the extrema 2 mate, beretta semi's are true quality. I know the baikal are half the price, but if your carrying it far you will realise why, its a lump of a gun and the finish isnt the best of jobs. On the other hand the beretta is true quality, from its action to the recoil its as smooth as they come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I have a black Benelli M2 semi-auto, it has never jammed, from the lightest, shortest clay loads to 3" magnum shells, it cycles it all. Im sure the quality is up to Beretta standards too, after all benelli is owned by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 May I recomend a Franchi 712 Raptor? 3 inch mag, reversible piston for light / heavy loads, weather coated wood making it look awesome, fast smooth cycling, nice looking nickel reciever, 3 chokes, key, spray oil, hard case, made by Beretta anyway........ If you shop round like I did, you'll get one for 575 brand new. I'm very impressed with it so far, I'm shooting a lot better than I was before with a Miroku o/u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 im with Axe and Bertie with this one, i have 3 semis all Berreta's no probs at all, used a lot of the ones out there but none compare to the quality and reliability of the Berreta, only my opinion, but its with experience. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I have a Beretta AL-391 Urika and would recommend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I've also got a Beretta 391, and no problems whatsoever I see that you don't live too far from me barraboy - if you want to try mine before you buy send me a PM Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Don't touch the Baikal, I had one and it jammed solid everytime I unloaded it. I have an Extrema now and it is excellent. Fires and cycles all carts from 24g to 66g. Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 i would reccomend 712 raptor baikal mp 153 and winchester x2 sporting clays and even 712 syntwood, have tried them all none missed a beat shoot what feels good and to your budget.personally berettas dont suit me,i would nt doubt they are good guns love my x2 the most good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinGalway Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 The Remington 11-87 Super Mag is great gun, I have the SPS version. Can fire standard shells. 3" and 3.5". Never had any problems with it and it's fired well over 8000 rounds. Stick a turkey choke on it and with the correct load it is an brilliant fox gun upto 60 yards!! http://www.remington.com/products/firearms...uper_magnum.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barraboy Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 cheers everyone, some good advice, time for the thinking cap now. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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