NickP Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I'm considering getting myself a air rifle set up sometime soon. I don't have any permissions, I just go clay shooting as much as i have time for and think i would like start shooting air rifles too I have never been shooting like this before, so would want to learn about pellets, flight paths,wind and anything else before I even consider been out in a field shooting rabbits etc So im thinking target shooting first of all What would be a good place to start? I have kept an eye on the normal guns for sale websites and have seen some nice looking setups, with scopes, bi pods etc, but they all looking like hunting setup to me, but they seem to include more than what i have seen for sale at dealers whilst browsing I think I would look for a PCP setup straight away, and use a stirrup pump for starters and bottle later on, but not sure on what type of to get,.177, .22, barrel length Normal or bull nose, scope for targets that would be suitable to hunt with later down the line with little modification if there is such a thing. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 If you want to hunt with it .22 is better due to heavier weight giving better stopping power, if target shooting then.177 is better due to flatter trajectory but not as good stopping power, you will often find something shot with .177 will sometimes run on or fly on before dropping and being lost but usually .22 will drop things where shot, get the best you can afford then you wont have to change later on, I would also opt for a buddy bottle system, my choice would be a second hand rapid 7 as they will hold their value and as long as you shop about you will always get back what you payed for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 okay, with regards to calibre the .177 is easier to shoot due to flatter trajectory as in there will be less bullet drop as the range increases. however do not rul out a .22 as both my air rifles are in .22 and they are in my eyes good guns. target shooting would be the best place to start, and whether you join a club or just shoot in your back garden is up to you, but you must make sue you can group your pellets into an inch at the range you wish to shoot at before heading off after live quarry. i would reccomend taking a look at spring airguns as well though as there are some great ones on the market and with practice they can be just as effective as a pcp.hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I have seen a buddy bottle mentioned on a BSA Super 10, Speaking of which, i have seen the Super10 with bullnose barrels, are these just shorter to prevent them catching whilst out shooting, whats the benefit for bullnose against normal barrels, and what is a tactical gun? I think i would have to keep the shooting to the range though, living in a town all be it with a large'ish garden, the only backstop i have are garden fences with 8ft conifers behind and then public footpaths and in the other direction a garage and my next door neighbours house, also the fact i have double decker buses drive past and me sat in my garden with a rifle might not be the best thing to see But as you say I need to get my grouping together and read the surrounding conditions to do this and adjust the scope accordingly to keep the grouping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy198712 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 fitting a longer barrel to my air rifle raised the power by 1ft/lb, i think it was about an 8inch increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 tactical usually means it's got a synthetic stock instead of a more traditional wooden one. These are generally used by hunters as they are much more hard wearing than wooden ones - they're more resistant to rain and scratches. They're also slightly cheaper, but in my opinion don't look as good! BSA do a good line in tactical stocks for the Ultra and Scorpion as well as the lightening, but you can get them specially made for any rifle if you really want! A word on the stopping power of a .177. I hunt with one and have never had any problems with quarry flying or running off with it. A clean head shot is a clean head shot, regardless of cal. you do get a little more stopping power with a heavier pellet, but the velocity of a .177 is higher and it's easier to shoot because of the flatter trajectory. However, they're more susceptible to wind. As you can tell, it's swings and roundabouts: take your pick as to the advantages and limitations! Shorter barrels are very useful for hunting, particularly in enclosed spaces like around farm buildings, woods or from the car. If you whack a silencer on the end of something like the BSA R10 with the standard barrel the thing's about a mile long, so a lot of people get it shortened if it's used as a hunter. Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 thanks fella its all helping towards what i'm going to look into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 They are not bull nose sire, that is cars, as in a Bull Nose Morris. You are referring to Bull Barrel or Shrouded Barrel guns. These have a built in silencer, that works, but not was well as an external silencer unless it has been repacked (ie what goes in the silencer) changed by an expert. If you want to hunt with a shrouded barrel you can. They were developed for the American market because in some states you cannot have an external silencer, so the silencer is built into the gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hi Nick welcome to the great sport of airgunning, it would be a great help to you if can find out where your local airgun clubs are situated and arrange to go along there and meet the members , they are genrally happy to help people with advice, look at some of there guns maybe try one or two, plus you get to make new friends with the same interest , good luck and safe shooting. regds brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Bull nose Morris somebody is showing there age i bet most on here wouldn`t know what it was or looked like. Happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I knew it had bull somewhere in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I get many New and Returning Air Gunners each Week Through my Air Gun club - Lea Valley - Hertford http://www.lvagc.com Many come to check out what is around and in use these Days Joys of a Large Club - Where most Saturday's We have nearly ever available Gun and bit of gear on use on Club Ranges Most Air Gun clubs allow New Shooters - most have the odd spare Gun to try - Most can been found on a google search as have web sites Re calibre - again down to Shooter - Most clubs - use .177 So they can knock down targets - Our Ranges go out to 60 Metres plus I mostly Hunt with .177 - BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 There are two airgun clubs that shoot ft and hft within twenty minutes of leeds one is Emley moor ft club which is behind the motorway services and Redferns ft club which is pretty near emley although i could drive there i could not give you the address. I used to travel to these clubs from Manchester and they always treated me well and helped where they could....... probably worth a look mate before you make any rash choices. Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I was chatting to my brother and his father in law has a air rifle, so im going to have a chat next time we are clay bashing and see if we can arrange a morning on the targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hi mate ,it really is worthwhile getting down to a club to get a good insight into whats available before you part with any hard earned cash ,all the clubs i have listed are fairly close to you and are really friendly also the members are very helpful.You never know bud there might even be a rifle or two for sale. http://www.pontefractairrifleclub.co.uk/ http://www.redfearnsftc.co.uk/ http://emleymoorftc.co.uk/default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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