OddJob Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm new to the forum, so first of all, hello! I'm looking to get my first shotgun to take up a long held passion of clay shooting but the sticking point at the moment is how and where to secure a gun cabinet/safe in the house. What are the rules and regs regarding how and where it needs to be secured? Bolting it to certain parts of the house seems a tricky and messy venture at best. Naturally I want to do it right for the sake of security and so the powers that be are satisfied. I'd really appreciate your comments on how you chaps do it and if there are any tips and tricks. Thanks, Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 if you have any built in wardrobe's with a solid wall then that is perfect raw bolt,s to wall job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm new to the forum, so first of all, hello! I'm looking to get my first shotgun to take up a long held passion of clay shooting but the sticking point at the moment is how and where to secure a gun cabinet/safe in the house. What are the rules and regs regarding how and where it needs to be secured? Bolting it to certain parts of the house seems a tricky and messy venture at best. Naturally I want to do it right for the sake of security and so the powers that be are satisfied. I'd really appreciate your comments on how you chaps do it and if there are any tips and tricks. Thanks, Neal. for a start they like it to be out of sight,from any one so in a up stairs bedroom will be fine,bolt it to the wall with raw bolts from any diy.best to bolt it into brick work and in to a corner of the room,you will be getting more comments on this. and welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 As Magman says. If you have a chimney breast in the lost this should be ideal Don Soory, should have read loft Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I dont think that i would fancy going to all the trouble to get out my loft ladders to go shooting. I can see your point though<out of sight and all that. I think that in a cupboard is fine and more than exeptable. May i suggest that if your not allready, to join B.A.S.C it will cost you no more than £1 a week and the advice that you will recieve alone i think is more than value for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 the police dont really like them in the loft, if you have to go up there each time its temted, to leave it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pike Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Had my cabinet in the loft once but found it an absolute nightmare to keep going up and down - especially if you are coming in at 3.30am and start pulling loft ladders about when the rest of the household are alseep! Have cabinet somewhere else now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Thanks for all the replies, very kind. Thankfully we've got a loft conversion with an accessible chimney breast so that might be an idea. How many raw bolts do most safes need, or does it just depend on the safe? What are the diamater of the bolts? Are the police picky with other security details in the house? Cheers again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Thanks for all the replies, very kind. Thankfully we've got a loft conversion with an accessible chimney breast so that might be an idea. How many raw bolts do most safes need, or does it just depend on the safe? What are the diamater of the bolts? Are the police picky with other security details in the house? Cheers again. 4 in the back 2 on the bottom.but 4 in the back will do.they look at the windows. and locks on the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Thanks for all the replies, very kind. Thankfully we've got a loft conversion with an accessible chimney breast so that might be an idea. How many raw bolts do most safes need, or does it just depend on the safe? What are the diamater of the bolts? Are the police picky with other security details in the house? Cheers again. 4 in the back 2 on the bottom.but 4 in the back will do.they look at the windows. and locks on the doors. Yep - you could be visited by the same FAO as me - which bit of Essex are you in? Anyhows the FAO was a nice chap - he will give the gun cabinet a good rock to make sure it is secure and will also bring a print out of the reported crime in a 1/2 mile radius of your home. I put extra holes in mine to make sure it all got passed in one inspection. I can recommend rawl bolts drilled and stuck into the wall using polyester adhesive, and then bolting the cabinet on with jumbo washers - this topic has been discussed before and all the links are available (use the search function) - the bits come from screwfix at a total cost of about £10. P.S. They don't like cabinets in lofts or hard to reach areas of your house because they know that people are lazy and less likely to put guns away as soon as they return home from shooting. Also cabinets in external areas - sheds and garages are a no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Im in Great Dunmow, so I'm assuming it'll be the Chelmsford FAO that comes around. Will they come round to assess possible areas to site the cabinet or just once you've done it? We have a loft conversion with nigh on permanent steps so I think they shouldn't frown too much upon it, but then I'd not want to second guess and get it wrong. Where do you shoot Mungler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Perm steps to loft conversion will be fine. Take the plunge and stick it in - they will just want to make sure it is concealed and bolted down every which way. If you ask them first where they want it to go, you are looking at two visits and delay. I shoot at Orions (Romford), Bush Hill / Bush Wood (Saturday Billericay / Sunday Stock), Fyfield SG and Braintree SG. Not too sure what's on up your neck of the woods, but being a bit more rural I bet there are plenty of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Perm steps to loft conversion will be fine. Take the plunge and stick it in - they will just want to make sure it is concealed and bolted down every which way. If you ask them first where they want it to go, you are looking at two visits and delay. I shoot at Orions (Romford), Bush Hill / Bush Wood (Saturday Billericay / Sunday Stock), Fyfield SG and Braintree SG. Not too sure what's on up your neck of the woods, but being a bit more rural I bet there are plenty of them. I've shot up at the Braintree/Bocking shooting ground before, had a membership and the money for a gun 3 years back, but things cropped up and it wasn't meant to be. Still, maybe 2nd time lucky. Cheers for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Perm steps to loft conversion will be fine. Take the plunge and stick it in - they will just want to make sure it is concealed and bolted down every which way. If you ask them first where they want it to go, you are looking at two visits and delay. I shoot at Orions (Romford), Bush Hill / Bush Wood (Saturday Billericay / Sunday Stock), Fyfield SG and Braintree SG. Not too sure what's on up your neck of the woods, but being a bit more rural I bet there are plenty of them. I've shot up at the Braintree/Bocking shooting ground before, had a membership and the money for a gun 3 years back, but things cropped up and it wasn't meant to be. Still, maybe 2nd time lucky. Cheers for the advice. As long as whatever cropped up wasn't a stretch inside, then I am sure you will get your license and gun this time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white fox Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 What's all this loft mallarky, fitted mine up there years ago, had two visits over the years, he just stuck his head up through the hatch and said it was fine, second time didn't even look. Up there there is less risk of kids getting to it. As for being lazy and leaving the guns out - you are responsible for your actions - just don't do it. There - that's my ha'penny's worth. WF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Due to my house being timber framed I screwed mine to the floor(with 4" coach screws)in a box room and it has no windows and a lockable door,so no probs with mine,however we intend to enlarge this room into a bedroom and the guns etc. will have to go elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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