varget Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 i'm seriously thinking about putting in for a 17hmr but need to know the truth i have a 223 but think that its tooo-much gun for some of my land and come across foxes on there. this is where i would benifit from having such a small cal has anyone got a bad word to say about this call? have you had one and got rid coz it was not what you thought it would be??? i know every one who has one will praise the hell out of them but im realy interested in hearing the comments from people who have but dont own one now :yp: :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Amazing little round and very very accurate Buy the CZ with the 16" barrel I have the CZ American Varmint with the 20" barrel and it weighs a bloody ton Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 People praise the HMR because it is very cheap to run, extremely accurate and very powerful for its size. But don't be mislead by this, it is not a pure fox round. Whilst it will happily take rabbits and crows out to 175yards you are better to stick to close ranges on Fox out 75yards max. If you want a sepcific Fox calibre, stick with your .223 REM, the .17HMR is a rabbit gun with the occasional Fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varget Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 .17HMR is a rabbit gun with the occasional Fox. thats exactly what it would be used for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 No true ......er words spoken I think myself like other 17hmr owners have the 223 rem for that purpose. Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varget Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 any more comments gents ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down South Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 It is an amazing round. I use it from where the .22 struggles out to 100 yds or so. I tend to shoot from my truck window so thats about as far as I want to shoot. Too lazy to get a bipod, lay down and take those longer shots. It's down fall is the wind which will throw it all over the place. When I first got my Sako I nearly gave up because I was trying to zero in adverse conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Have taken rabbits and 2 foxes with mine so far, really good round with v-max ammo. Id love a 223 or similar though for them foxes that sit just too far away for my hmr. Alex Get one they are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Took my .17hmr out yesterday afternoon (just to get away from wallpapering for a couple of hours) and as I haven’t used it for a few weeks I forgot that I had cleaned it. Missed two 125+yd rabbits with my first two shots, and thought I had better check the sights. They were 3 inches too high at 100yds :yp: So I altered the sights and started to re-zero………….only to find that the bloody POI was now 3inches too low. It was then that I remembered that this particular rifle takes @ 10 shots to settle back in and that it was a waste of time trying to shoot anything until I had put the first 10 shots through it. Don’t know about others but I only clean every 200 rds, which is a bloody good job really if it takes 10 shots to get it back on target. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Done exactly the same thing mate, lol. cleaned it and shot at a couple of rabbits and missed, forgot that id cleaned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I've had an Anschutz hmr for a couple of months. I bought it mainly as a long range rabbit gun - I have a Sako 0.223 and a Sako 0.22 rimmy. I do a lot of rabbit control, and for some long range rabbits where you cannot get close the 0.17 is ideal - as long as there is no significant wind, as others have said. Accuracy is c.0.75" at 100 yards with 17g Hornady V-Max. This is ideal for head shooting rabbits, which is what I do. It will body shoot rabbits at well over 150 yards -again as others have said it would. However, bullet damage can be excessive with the 17g V-Max rounds. I have not had the opportunity to shoot a fox with it, but having read the experience of others on this forum I would stick to a probable maximum of 75 yards. Compared to a normal 0.22 rimmy one of the main differences is that you have to have a regular cleaning regime - every 100 rounds or so. I see that you have a 0.223, and so you will be used to this anyway. If I go foxing, then I will take the 0.223, as this is a much more capable calibre for distance work as ft-lbs of energy does matter! However, with the hmr I now have the option of going for a walk at dusk after rabbits and if I see a fox at 75 yards or so then I will have the confidence of a clean kill. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_nick Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Out of interest, what price range is .177hmr ammo? I will put one down on my next variation (going to keep going till I get my open ticket ) but I have no idea about cost of ammo, the gun is cheap enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Hi Dr nick, the 17 is a really fun round as folk have said not a fox calibre but if the occasion rises then ok if within 100yds. had mine for about 7 months and never looked back although the odd time been a bit Pd off due to being neglegent on the cleaning side but can honestly say if i could shoot 2 i would. Amo cost is about £8.50 approx for 50. And as mentioned earlier,after a clean it needs a few through to get back on target Go for it you wont be dissapointed dougy Amazing little round and very very accurate Buy the CZ with the 16" barrel I have the CZ American Varmint with the 20" barrel and it weighs a bloody ton Jonno jonno how did you manage to safely butcher that round ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 As others have said it doesnt like the wind. I have had it blown off by 5 inch at 100m in a v strong wind!! you wont get that with 222 or 223 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varget Posted August 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 has anyone put 4,000+ rounds through a 17hmr, if so is it still accurate or is it starting to show signs that the barrel is on its way out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_nick Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 has anyone put 4,000+ rounds through a 17hmr, if so is it still accurate or is it starting to show signs that the barrel is on its way out?? £680 worth of ammo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffy Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 has anyone put 4,000+ rounds through a 17hmr, if so is it still accurate or is it starting to show signs that the barrel is on its way out?? I've put 3900 through mine since last August - and it's a 2nd hand rifle! So I guess it's seen nearer 5,000?? I can see absolutely no difference in accuracy and consistancy - headshots from 130 to 170 yards a couple of days ago were no problem. If the weather is reasonable tomorrow I'll try and shoot a few groups with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 has anyone put 4,000+ rounds through a 17hmr, ive put a lot more than that down mine, and if anything it just gets better. had it cut from 18 inches to 14 inches. and it is just as good, even easier out of the motor now. no loss of accuracy at all and if it is slower i cant tell. if it had changed for the worse i would have scrapped it, but iam keeping it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 personally i think it's a round with out a purpose ! its useless even in the smallest amount of wind, for a rimfire it's too expensive to run its too noisey and i think it is pointless to shoot rabbits or blow rabbits to bits should i say at 200 yards why not just get with in 100 yards of them and cheaply and quietly shoot them with a .22lr then if your hungry you can go pick the rabbit up and take it home to eat rather than goin over and scraping wot ever is left off the floor and hopeing the local chinease will buy it from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 personally i think it's a round with out a purpose ! its useless even in the smallest amount of wind, for a rimfire it's too expensive to run its too noisey and i think it is pointless to shoot rabbits or blow rabbits to bits should i say at 200 yards why not just get with in 100 yards of them and cheaply and quietly shoot them with a .22lr then if your hungry you can go pick the rabbit up and take it home to eat rather than goin over and scraping wot ever is left off the floor and hopeing the local chinease will buy it from you If you can consistently shoot a rabbit in the head at 100 yards with a degree of wind with a 0.22 rimmy then I take my hat off to you sir. Shooting the 0.17hmr at long range in any state of wind above light is a waste of time, and most owners would agree with you. However, the round does have a purpose, and that is in windless conditions it will shoot dead flat, out to 150 yards or so. So, at ranges above 80 yards or so with a 0.22 rimmy you can whizz off a shot with fingers crossed, or you can use a 0.17 hmr. Above 50 yards in windy conditions even the 0.22 rimmy is pushed about. I have not really tested this but at similar short range in windy conditions I would have thought that the 0.17 is not too bad. It is at long range, with velocity reducing that the very light 0.17 bullet becomes too erratic. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Interesting reading, I've one on my cert, & thinking of get one soon, heard nothing but good about this little round. Just one question? And as mentioned earlier,after a clean it needs a few through to get back on target Why does it need a few through to get zero again? Do you have to alter the scope after cleaning? BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Why does it need a few through to get zero again? Do you have to alter the scope after cleaning? its a rimmy and as such likes it dirty( or mine does) after a really good clean mine takes 20 rounds to get back on, i do not alter the scope during the getting back on shots. if i get to 30 shots then i will. but it wont be that far off. as for cleaning , heard it all from 10 shots to 100. last time i did mine it had going on for 500 down it, the reason it was cleaned is because i had it shortened and wanted to start again.get one and do your own thing, as you will do your head in taking in all the different advise. youll find them that moan most dont have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 B J I only need to put 3 or 4 rounds through mine after cleaning if you call pulling a boresnake through every 100 or so rounds thats all mine gets 2 pull throughs. If you want to know how accurate this is with this type of cleaning ask KDUBYA that i shoot with from this site. He has commented more than once how accurate it is mind you it is an ANSHUTZ 1517. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 if you call pulling a boresnake through every 100 or so no mate thats not cleaning .but if it works for you so be it. as i said do your own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 if you call pulling a boresnake through every 100 or so no mate thats not cleaning .but if it works for you so be it. as i said do your own thing. You have seen it knock bunnies down mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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