yellowwedge Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Okay, so let me level with you for a moment. I'm a Student. I'm also a keen shooter, and I've been a member of a club in my Uni-town for a few months shy of a year now. Anyway, a fair few of the guys at my local range have been jokingly asking when I'm intending on getting my own firearm (I have been using the range-provided ones for my whole time there). Of course, they're only kidding, but it got me thinking. Let's say I got around the storage problem; landlord was fine with installing a safe and whatnot. Another problem becomes apparent; Transport. I don't have a car. Previously, I'd gotten a lift up there from a flatmate who had a night-shift in the general vicinity of the range. However, I'm moving into a house, and it seems a bit much to scrounge a lift from the poor guy when we don't even live close any more. It is perfectly feasible to walk or cycle to the range (it's about 30 minutes walk from the house, by my estimate). Could anyone point a new-fish in the right direction when it comes to transporting a gun without a car? Obviously this isn't legally binding advice or anything, but I was just curious as to the ins-and-outs of it. For my first firearm, I would likely look to get a .22 rifle or a black-powder pistol (though that's hardly set-in-stone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I know someone who use his bicycle to get to the local clay ground. There is no legislation about transportation just makee sure its safee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Okay, so let me level with you for a moment. I'm a Student. I'm also a keen shooter, and I've been a member of a club in my Uni-town for a few months shy of a year now. Anyway, a fair few of the guys at my local range have been jokingly asking when I'm intending on getting my own firearm (I have been using the range-provided ones for my whole time there). Of course, they're only kidding, but it got me thinking. Let's say I got around the storage problem; landlord was fine with installing a safe and whatnot. Another problem becomes apparent; Transport. I don't have a car. Previously, I'd gotten a lift up there from a flatmate who had a night-shift in the general vicinity of the range. However, I'm moving into a house, and it seems a bit much to scrounge a lift from the poor guy when we don't even live close any more. It is perfectly feasible to walk or cycle to the range (it's about 30 minutes walk from the house, by my estimate). Could anyone point a new-fish in the right direction when it comes to transporting a gun without a car? Obviously this isn't legally binding advice or anything, but I was just curious as to the ins-and-outs of it. For my first firearm, I would likely look to get a .22 rifle or a black-powder pistol (though that's hardly set-in-stone). All you need is a case simples i no a few lads with pigeon shooting land a few mile from me they leave there decoy gear at farm push bike it up there with gun in case never bin any problems hope that helps swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I have known lads in towns carry thier guns in non-gun looking cases (always have the bolt on your person in a pocket etc). I am told a lot of buses wont let you on with a firearms, so a keyboard case or similar sounds usefull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robl Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Legally, carrying a gun in a slip is fine. However, a case or bag that didn’t look like a gun case would probably be a good idea in a metropolitan area, because there will always be someone who thinks they should call the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) When I was a student I used to store my target rifle at the university's armoury, ie at the range with the club rifles, bolt stored elsewhere. No need to deal with transport, land lords or what is more of a concern - lots of people coming and going in a shared student house. Edited July 31, 2012 by ajb403 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Bicycle, with gun in a guitar case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robl Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) If you hit reply on the button under the post it auto quotes it the last non-quoted piece of text. The way to avoid it is to hit the larger reply button at the bottom of the thread – or use the quick reply text box. I would guess that some mobile devices don’t show all these buttons and perhaps cause more quotes than other devices. Edited July 31, 2012 by Robl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Join club leave gun there sounds best solution to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Bicycle, with gun in a guitar case! El Mariachi cometh - nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 If you don't ask the landlord, he can't say no. Bearing in mind it only requires 4 holes to fix a cabinet, they can easily be filled when you leave the property, so no damage will be done, he need not know. I'd be a bit concerned about walking to a club with a firearm. It's perfectly legal, but it would not take a smart criminal to notice a person walking alone with a gun, on a regular basis. It might not be an issue for you, you might be in a very decent area. My main concern is some of the old codgers you sometimes see walking or cycling to clay grounds - if someone tried to snatch their gun they'd have no chance. If your in a decent area I'd put it in a case that does not look like a gun slip, and carry the bolt elsewhere on your person, so if it gets stolen it's useless. If you get a FAC, I'd have thought you could come to an arrangement with the club easily enough to allow you to keep it there most of the time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwedge Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I agree about the walking to and from perhaps being a tad risky. I mean, I'm a fairly big guy, and for a University Town, my area is pretty small and close-knit. Not a huge amount to worry about, from what I understand. However, a few months ago, one of our club members claimed to have spotted a fellow hanging around the driveway. Not sure if it was anything to worry about; there's never been a break in attempt before or after that, and it's the only time I can think of when the club members were at all concerned with security. In the end, I don't think it was reported to the police, as there was no crime committed, but we've been even more security conscious since then. As for the installing a safe, I'd have to check out what sort I was getting. I don't have a huge amount of money to spend on a safe, but I can't see myself owning more than two guns at a time in the near future, so hopefully I'd not have to spend a vast amount on one. I'm not sure about keeping it at the club, though. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to leave it there if I could, but I don't know of any other members of my particular club which do that. Not sure if that would be feasible, though it would be ideal, as I foresee the fact that I have a couple of housemates as perhaps slowing down an FAC application. If the police knew that my gun would not be kept at my house, then that might eliminate the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Okay, so let me level with you for a moment. I'm a Student. I'm also a keen shooter, and I've been a member of a club in my Uni-town for a few months shy of a year now. Anyway, a fair few of the guys at my local range have been jokingly asking when I'm intending on getting my own firearm (I have been using the range-provided ones for my whole time there). Of course, they're only kidding, but it got me thinking. Let's say I got around the storage problem; landlord was fine with installing a safe and whatnot. Another problem becomes apparent; Transport. I don't have a car. Previously, I'd gotten a lift up there from a flatmate who had a night-shift in the general vicinity of the range. However, I'm moving into a house, and it seems a bit much to scrounge a lift from the poor guy when we don't even live close any more. It is perfectly feasible to walk or cycle to the range (it's about 30 minutes walk from the house, by my estimate). Could anyone point a new-fish in the right direction when it comes to transporting a gun without a car? Obviously this isn't legally binding advice or anything, but I was just curious as to the ins-and-outs of it. For my first firearm, I would likely look to get a .22 rifle or a black-powder pistol (though that's hardly set-in-stone). The only rule relating to transport is the one resulting from the safe keeping condition that is appended automatically to your cert. You have take reasonable precautions to prevent access to the firearms and ammo by unauthorised persons. The key word being reasonable so you do not need to drive around in a mobile version of Fort Knox to satisfy the requirement. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 If you hit reply on the button under the post it auto quotes it the last non-quoted piece of text. The way to avoid it is to hit the larger reply button at the bottom of the thread – or use the quick reply text box. I would guess that some mobile devices don’t show all these buttons and perhaps cause more quotes than other devices. I tend to use the quote button as it keeps it simple if you have come into a long thread. The discussion can look very disjointed if you make a post answering the orignal question but the thread has already drifted elsewhere. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 You should have a chat with bicykillgaz, the things he's carried on his bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Before my nephew passed his driving test he would bike to wherever he was going shooting and sling his shotgun over his shoulder in its slip,complete with the word BERETTA emblazoned along it in bright yellow!He did the same when going to work following school,as his employer let him shoot on his land.Perfectly legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 im glad you bought that up fister, its worse in the sporting pic section when you have to see the same pic over and over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard V Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The FEO diddn't mind if mine was carried on a motorbike (no car too) he simply just said "well if that's the only way you can transport your gun then it will be fine". Just cover it up as you'll get the nee naw sound after a few minutes :lol: Same with public transport, just keep it covered and with you at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Do you have an FAC? I would say leave gun at range and take bolt home perhaps get a small safe. FAC at shared house may be an issue but some other better informed people will be along at around 3am...... What do the other members do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwedge Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The other members of my range seem to exclusively store their firearms at their homes. There is a big, heavy ol' safe in the Club's meeting room area, but I've only ever seen it opened once, and (if I recall) it seemed to just contain various files and documents. I don't have an FAC yet, no. However, the folks that I've talked to (fairly experienced shooters) seemed confident that I'd be granted one, if I installed a safe and followed the correct procedures. My house has lockable bedrooms and I have a few ideas of ways to conceal the location of the safe. Not sure about the whole 'not telling the Landlord' thing. He seems a reasonable chap, and he'd probably want to know if there was a firearm on the premises. So would you guys advise talking to the FEO about how I'd be transporting said gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 No. People have an obsession with feos on here. Just apply for what you want. If he questions transport just tell him you will be on the bus. Solong as its in a case its ok. He will be ok with it and if he's not, he wants the sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 No. People have an obsession with feos on here. Just apply for what you want. If he questions transport just tell him you will be on the bus. Solong as its in a case its ok. He will be ok with it and if he's not, he wants the sack. Well said. Quite frankly how I transport mine is my business and mine alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 OP - i dont see that carriage of the guns in public on your way to thew range is a problem providing they are in secureley fastened cases but i do see other issues - you talk in your first post about being a student and being at a club in your university town. Do you actually live in the town permanently or are you in rented digs returning to your folks for the summer etc? After university life do you expect to stay in this town? do you expect to return to your parents after uni? Theres nothing saying you can't fit a cabinet in a rented property- but is a FEO going to pass an installation in a student house(which he will undoubtedly recognise as occupied under multiple tenancies ? from experience i found that when i was a student (many moons ago) the longest time i had in any tenancy was about 10 months and by that logic you may even have moved before the cert gets issued ! :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwedge Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 OP - i dont see that carriage of the guns in public on your way to thew range is a problem providing they are in secureley fastened cases but i do see other issues - you talk in your first post about being a student and being at a club in your university town. Do you actually live in the town permanently or are you in rented digs returning to your folks for the summer etc? After university life do you expect to stay in this town? do you expect to return to your parents after uni? Theres nothing saying you can't fit a cabinet in a rented property- but is a FEO going to pass an installation in a student house(which he will undoubtedly recognise as occupied under multiple tenancies ? from experience i found that when i was a student (many moons ago) the longest time i had in any tenancy was about 10 months and by that logic you may even have moved before the cert gets issued ! :yp: Good questions. Something I've been considering myself. I do return home over Summer, though I have no obligation to do so, as I haven't got a permanent job back down South, and I tend to do freelance, work-from-home writing to earn a little spending-money. As for after Uni, I'd definitely like to stay in my Uni town for at least a year or so, to figure out where I'm to go from there. As for the 'separate tenancies' thing; each room is lockable, so I'm told that technically each room is a separate 'property' or something of the sort. I shall ask about a bit more when I get back up there (I'm doing a course down South at the mo'), but as I said - this is all speculative right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpa Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I've ridden my motorbike plenty of times with my clay gun in a case on the rack, also in full camo with gun slip over shoulder, mountain bike with gun slip bungeed to the crossbar etc. Never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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