scooby -doo Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 In the news last week http://ballymoney.thechronicle.uk.com/articles/news/28612/on-target-for-success/ good thing is is about 6 miles from my house . will be good for even just setting up a new gun etc ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 The plans seem impressive. A 300 meter indoor range would be something else. Very handy to fine tune the zero of a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Thats good news, not so local for me but no doubt i'll be visiting when its open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 From reading various articles in the papers and the Shooting Times this new range sounds like a commercial venture . I wonder how much it will cost as the fees for another range outside Ballymena are quite stiff and they do not have the range of facilities that these people will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 From reading various articles in the papers and the Shooting Times this new range sounds like a commercial venture . I wonder how much it will cost as the fees for another range outside Ballymena are quite stiff and they do not have the range of facilities that these people will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 what range outside ballymena? think the new one will be costly.heard he expects one thousand members.personally i can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Best of luck with the new range...pity we can't get something decent in S Wales over 200m. Is sectarianism a problem in NI gun clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 would nt have thought so mate.any clay club i have been in religion never was mentioned.just as it should be.but can't see this new venture being cheap.someone has to pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Best of luck with the new range...pity we can't get something decent in S Wales over 200m. Is sectarianism a problem in NI gun clubs? Its not something i have come across. What evedance do you have of sectarianisim in N Ireland gun clubs. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 can't see this getting the funding it needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 I often hear stories of certain clubs being difficult to get into. You have to know somebody who knows somebody who then refers you to the membership secretary who then decides whether your face fits etc. This leaves many people in the dark about club membership over here. It creates a feeling of closed culture which probably prevents shooters from making further enquiries about club membership, thus preventing growth of our sport. This culture unfortunately does exist over here. Now let's imagine this culture doesn't exist for a minute. The members who were looking to join a club would be in one. Then a new club comes along boasting bigger ranges and better facilities. The existing clubs should feel less threatened because they know that they have done everything in their power to ensure healthy membership numbers. Some members might defect, but most would remain content with what they have. Now revert back to the current culture. The current clubs over here have scored so many own goals with their membership policies, that this new proposed club will undoubtedly impact their revenue (providing it receives the funding it requires). The current clubs will start rumours about it in an attempt to ward not only the their existing members, but budding members away from it too. Look at the amount of shooters who would like to join a club, but are unable to because of barriers put in place by said clubs. A new establishment like the one proposed here would be very appealing to those shooters would it not? Out of speculation, I very much doubt that 1000 members is achievable. If it did happen though, there would be an awful lot of paperwork for the club, not to mention the pressure on the membership secretary and other club officials when it came to 30/40's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 i ll not be applying for it no matter how good it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think it is understandable that given the security situation here that clubs are careful who they consider for membership. They have to be careful around the security of club members who have being targeted in the past and their firearms stolen. Also who they give a letter of support for firearms and ammunition that could be misused. Recommendations and introductions from other members isn't perfect but how else do they vet possible members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 does this mean this new range will say yep to anyone? recipe for disaster. can't see it being committee run either which means its his way or the highway.just can't see it working out with the best interests of all involved.you want the facilities you have to be prepared to pay . think you will find this one will be expensive and he will aim for the big money men . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Ordance...I have made no assertion that there is any sectarianism in NI guns clubs, so your request for evidence is inappropriate...I just asked a 'stupid' question. Many thanks for the knowledgeable points of view...I really hope it works out. Sectarianism still exists in NI...I dare say everyone knows that...I wish a new generation would see the utter folly of sectarianism and take permanent steps to remove it from NI society. I live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Edit double post. Edited August 6, 2012 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 No problem. Their is and sadly always will be sectarianism i N Ireland especially when children are segregated in education. That's another story. As for clubs i can only talk for the clubs i am in and sectarianism is not a issue that i have come across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikka.223 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Surely the running costs for a range like this would be quite high,wages alone if he employs 10-20 full/part time staff and upto 100 jobs after planned construction? Will be interested to know the preposed membership fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 well if he can attract one thousand members the gun traders will do roaring trade.and if new members are recruited it can only strengthen our sport . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 well i dont think they will worry who joins the club seeing as 1 of the men in the picture in the link has family connections to a terrorist group :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 well i dont think they will worry who joins the club seeing as 1 of the men in the picture in the link has family connections to a terrorist group :yp: How is that relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 if that was the case it would defo put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 How is that relevant? well ordance said in his post that gun clubs need to be careful who they let join the club so im just saying with a man with terrorist family members sum of who have FACs so if they join the club then would he refuse his family members knowen what their sidekicks get up to in their spare time also would he be thinking what if they pass on to their sidekicks whos got guns what type etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Best of luck with the new range...pity we can't get something decent in S Wales over 200m. Is sectarianism a problem in NI gun clubs? Why would it be? Who would care about religion in a gun club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 well ordance said in his post that gun clubs need to be careful who they let join the club so im just saying with a man with terrorist family members sum of who have FACs so if they join the club then would he refuse his family members knowen what their sidekicks get up to in their spare time also would he be thinking what if they pass on to their sidekicks whos got guns what type etc etc All you're doing there is working off assumptions. If the police over here thought along the same lines, there would be very few people allowed to possess legally held firearms in the North regardless of geographical location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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