Have you any feed back of the NPPC

[williamr]

HI Guys,

 

Have you any feed back on the NPPC and if you are a member what's your favourite shooting spots, are there any members near my home in Oldham,may be we could have a day out decoying together?

 

Williamr.

[yickdaz]

was in the nppc,in 2008,2009,2010, had some brilliant days in yorkshire and staffordshire, but its a bit of drag traveling between 60 and 80 miles for shooting,mainly did it for winter rape shooting when we didn,t have any grown on our land. if your in oldham yorkshire would be the best bet for you, nppc covers land all over yorkshire north, south, east and west of the county

[hawkfanz]

howdy william me an my mate are in nppc we travel from lancashire to yorkshire,your in oldham as yickdaz says there,s lots to shoot at at the moment nearest ones to you are at burton salmon area,not bad from oldham.

[Tod]

howdy william me an my mate are in nppc we travel from lancashire to yorkshire,your in oldham as yickdaz says there,s lots to shoot at at the moment nearest ones to you are at burton salmon area,not bad from oldham.

theres only one field at burton salmon and that will have been harvested by now, as 99% of fields were rape on the current list unless its still stubble its a case of waiting for a new list when drillings take place, all in all though NPPC is very good if you have nowhere to shoot, but the key is watching the fields to see if birds are about and when a field on the list is being hammered chances are someone else will be watching too.

[shooternick]

theres only one field at burton salmon and that will have been harvested by now, as 99% of fields were rape on the current list unless its still stubble its a case of waiting for a new list when drillings take place, all in all though NPPC is very good if you have nowhere to shoot, but the key is watching the fields to see if birds are about and when a field on the list is being hammered chances are someone else will be watching too.

i think you will find the fields getting hammered will be out of bounds to members as the foreign paying clients get to shoot those, dont waste your money !

[sl1959]

i think you will find the fields getting hammered will be out of bounds to members as the foreign paying clients get to shoot those, dont waste your money !

shooternick is spoton Edited August 27, 2012 by sl1959

[hawkfanz]

notice i said burton salmon area,that includes the one there, hillam gates,and five at sherburn,when guides are charging anything up to £80 a day with no guarantee of birds i think £125 a year is good value.but nppc is not my only shooting available.

[simon6ppc]

i was in NPPC from 1990 to 2000, had around 70 the best bag, but the fields did get hammerd, it was 70 miles from my house to the near,st fields, once you booked your field for the day that was it, if you got there and nothing was about you were knackerd, but if you ave no shooting at all, i suppose its worth it, the pea drillings were good in spring, did ave some good bags then,,,

[flynny]

i think you will find the fields getting hammered will be out of bounds to members as the foreign paying clients get to shoot those, dont waste your money !

 

Tis the truth, me and my old fella joined many years ago , phoned up "can we shoot this feild" no it,s booked " ok can we shoot this field " no its booked always ended up being put in the same couple of feilds with ****** all happening on them . Any way we phoned Mr Shooter up and had a moan he then says "you can shoot this feild" so we arrive and speak to the farmer "nowt happening here lads you can shoot it if you want but some foreign lads have been over the last few days, and they have shot it out, they had some 100+ bags "

 

If your not in the "Clique" of Mr Shooters crew and are not a top dollar paying foreign pigeon shooter dont bother mate, but if you live local to the areas and have no where to shoot for £120 you have nothing to loose,

 

ATB Flynny.

[Towngun]

I have been a member of NPPC but now have my own more local shooting. However, I remain committed to its concept which is sport in return for regulated crop protection.There are one or two posts on NPCC which indicate to me that those posting have not had any real experience with NPPC.

 

Firstly, booking the field is a good idea. NPCC also has a feedback facility and a code of conduct. I know of another set up where booking was not allowed and to my horror they also allowed Class 1 firearms users (since stopped by the police). Imagine that, sitting in a hide with a high velocity round whizzing past and not even knowing another gun was out there! To make matters even worse this permission was well will within rifle range of a Motorway! This is what happens when you get an idiot in control of another idiot with a gun. I know this because this particular set up shared one field with NPCC and I might add abused it. i reaised my concerns at the time. When I walked the field i found evidence of litter, plastic bags, toilet waste and large volumes of plastic cartridges discarded etc. How could a country sportsman do such a thing to the area he shoots over? Let the great british public loose, without controls, on a farmers land and you will pretty soon lose permissions.

 

Of course a field should be booked out and I might add policed by fellow members who can report earlier users – what is the alternative, two shooters arguing over the field? This is why farmers use NPPC and reject individual approaches. I’m afraid ladies and gentlemen there are those amongst us who will abuse the countryside and the permissions that are granted by the farmers as a privilege. NPCC offers a controls over such abuse and you should value its membership. So as annoying as it may be these systems secure your future sport.

 

There is no favouritism - a field is either booked or not, simple as that. If the area is well shot then try mid week shooting.

 

Farmers want crop protection and are not interested in the recreation shot that comes out once a month. This is what NPPC is all about. Try referring NPCC in rather than going for individual permission. It might seem strange but you will carry far more clout with the farmer when he knows you can offer genuine crop protection that goes beyond your own ability to shoot the field. Discuss a prospective farmer with John and he will help open up the permission.

 

Finally, let me tell you this – John Shooter is a keen sportsman and has done more for your sport - perhaps more than you will ever know or do! . He is ethical and runs a first class sporting agency that costs peanuts to join. In comparison try buying a day with another agency and you will soon find out NPCC offer you a year’s shooting for the same.

 

For the modern sportsman who is “passion rich but time poor” this is a method of securing sporting opportunity. Note it is the opportunity for sport you pay for not the guarantee - these are wild birds not farmed fat pheasants driven over you at head height.

[flynny]

I have been a member of NPPC but now have my own more local shooting. However, I remain committed to its concept which is sport in return for regulated crop protection.There are one or two posts on NPCC which indicate to me that those posting have not had any real experience with NPPC.

 

Firstly, booking the field is a good idea. NPCC also has a feedback facility and a code of conduct. I know of another set up where booking was not allowed and to my horror they also allowed Class 1 firearms users (since stopped by the police). Imagine that, sitting in a hide with a high velocity round whizzing past and not even knowing another gun was out there! To make matters even worse this permission was well will within rifle range of a Motorway! This is what happens when you get an idiot in control of another idiot with a gun. I know this because this particular set up shared one field with NPCC and I might add abused it. i reaised my concerns at the time. When I walked the field i found evidence of litter, plastic bags, toilet waste and large volumes of plastic cartridges discarded etc. How could a country sportsman do such a thing to the area he shoots over? Let the great british public loose, without controls, on a farmers land and you will pretty soon lose permissions.

 

Of course a field should be booked out and I might add policed by fellow members who can report earlier users – what is the alternative, two shooters arguing over the field? This is why farmers use NPPC and reject individual approaches. I’m afraid ladies and gentlemen there are those amongst us who will abuse the countryside and the permissions that are granted by the farmers as a privilege. NPCC offers a controls over such abuse and you should value its membership. So as annoying as it may be these systems secure your future sport.

 

There is no favouritism - a field is either booked or not, simple as that. If the area is well shot then try mid week shooting.

 

Farmers want crop protection and are not interested in the recreation shot that comes out once a month. This is what NPPC is all about. Try referring NPCC in rather than going for individual permission. It might seem strange but you will carry far more clout with the farmer when he knows you can offer genuine crop protection that goes beyond your own ability to shoot the field. Discuss a prospective farmer with John and he will help open up the permission.

 

Finally, let me tell you this – John Shooter is a keen sportsman and has done more for your sport - perhaps more than you will ever know or do! . He is ethical and runs a first class sporting agency that costs peanuts to join. In comparison try buying a day with another agency and you will soon find out NPCC offer you a year’s shooting for the same.

 

For the modern sportsman who is “passion rich but time poor” this is a method of securing sporting opportunity. Note it is the opportunity for sport you pay for not the guarantee - these are wild birds not farmed fat pheasants driven over you at head height.

 

I had 2 tears experience with NPPC mate no one is knocking the set up or Mr shooter, but that was my experience of NPPC, and as for favouritism ,for myself and many others that's what it felt like,

 

Atb flynny

[army646]

I have been a member of NPPC for a couple of years now and will renew my membership again next year. If you are working full time it is a convenient way to access shooting land. Back this up with a bit of your own permission and it works quite well.

 

As far as John Shooter is concerned if you prove you are not an idiot and treat him with respect he will look after you.

 

Nidge

[flynny]

I have been a member of NPPC for a couple of years now and will renew my membership again next year. If you are working full time it is a convenient way to access shooting land. Back this up with a bit of your own permission and it works quite well.

 

As far as John Shooter is concerned if you prove you are not an idiot and treat him with respect he will look after you.

 

Nidge

 

So myself ,shooter nick and sl1959 are idiots who didn't treat him with respect, that's why he didn't look after us eh, as we have said that is our personal experience of NPPC and we are entitled to it,

 

Atb flynny

[shooternick]

So myself ,shooter nick and sl1959 are idiots who didn't treat him with respect, that's why he didn't look after us eh, as we have said that is our personal experience of NPPC and we are entitled to it,

 

Atb flynny

I agree with you Flynny, it seems the only respect is what he has for his foreign clients, certainly not bothered about the good honest shooters who are willing to part with their hard earned money only to be told fields are booked, of course money talks nowadays i spoke to a keeper last week who told me himself that some of the rape stubble had been purposely (booked out) to allow for some americans to shoot it, NPPC stinks if you ask me

[sl1959]

So myself ,shooter nick and sl1959 are idiots who didn't treat him with respect, that's why he didn't look after us eh, as we have said that is our personal experience of NPPC and we are entitled to it,

 

Atb flynny

so we are idiots but i dont brown nose to shooter or enyone else Edited September 2, 2012 by sl1959

[sl1959]

so if we dont agree with you we are idiots i dont brown nose to shooter or enyone else

oops yes i am sorry!!!!!!!!!! flynny

[flynny]

oops yes i am sorry!!!!!!!!!! flynny

 

Ha ha , love you too mate ha,ha

 

Atb flynny

[fielddweller]

Guys

Dont want to knock any club or Org but i live 1.5 miles from Burton Salmon my shooting buddy lives IN Burton Salmon and we have shot here less than10 times in the last 5 years.There are seveval hundred local pigeons but thats it,would love to see pics of 100 bird days.However if you want goose shooting there are **** loads at the moment and increasing daily.

[williamr]

Guys,

Thanks for your feed back,it seems its a very emotive issue with some very strong opinions, however if you do not have your own permissions, it seems good value for money, and the set up seems to be well controlled.

williamr.

[miniross]

Hi there I joined NPPC this year after shooting clays for a whole and a few sessions on the pigeons I was hooked I rang John and he explained the set up to me ring. He sorted me out with the basics and several other members of PW helped with the rest. In my short experience with John and the NPPC I'm very happy the land near to me is good land and I've seen birds about just do happened on my last visit there wasn't much around. You have to remember that 99% of member will work 9-5 Monday to Friday which mean 99% of members are gonna be out on a weekend and if you don't book early your gonna be disappointed. I'm lucky in the fact that I work weekends and have my days of midweek. As I said I have only recently joined but after looking at prices for shoot day on pigeons for what I have paid for membership it's well worth it. John if you read this keep up the good work hope no1 sees this as brown nosing

 

Mark

[Tod]

i am still a member of NPPC although i havnt shot any of their land in a while due to other permissions and going out with friends but in my experience John is spot on, never had any issues with him, everytime i have booked a field it has been available and he has told me the last time it was shot, i have text him at short notice and over the weekend and he has sorted me out with no problems but i havnt really shot that much on Saturdays as i know everyone and their grandad will be trying to get out, you have to remember how many members there are in NPPC many of them looking for somewhere to go mainly on a weekend, your bound to be beaton to a field once in a while, theres also the people who have permission straight from the farmer who may be shooting the fields too, as for keeping fields back for regulars how does he know where pigeons are going to be, i have seen a thousand birds on a field one day only to go the next and be nothing, i will renew next year if only for somewhere differant to go midweek when theres nothing on my usual places.

for the price of a couple of days with a guide and still nor guaranteed birds you get access to loads of land to shoot all year, you pays your money and takes your chance, i have gone blind to a field many a time and always shot birds, never had any great bags on NPPC land but had some enjoyable days,

[gixer11]

I too have recently joined. I was keen to get out and try my luck however the list i had been given nothing had strarted to be harvested. I rang John and told him i was going back offshore for 5 weeks and would like a go. He put me onto 3 fields of Barley stubble that were not on the published list but had been shot before.

I set up and had a few enjoyable hours and bagged 7. It was a pretty slow day and me not been experienced misse quite a few shots. I am now looking forward to getting home and getting out midweek. I think the fee is pretty cheap and would certainly join again.

[neilk63]

I have been with the NPPC now since 1994 and had some superb days out shooting

 

John I have found always to be spot on , I would say we used to get list 4 times a year but this has not been happening for a couple of years and we have lost numerous land we used to shoot on around Doncaster (not NPPC's fault) and Gringley on the Hill and Misterton but to name a few which has somewhat spoiled my enjoyment as I am local to these areas which I have had some really superb shooting over.

 

We dont seem to be picking up any new land , maybe this is as John points out alot of the farmers are not growing peas etc etc .

 

Bottom line is its a well run club with a straight bloke running it for a reasonable price.

 

I havent done much this year yet again but that was down to me not having time to travel further a field...and yes I will be re newing my membership again this year ...hoping for a better winters shooting as long as the lists are sent out before the month end!

[Towngun]

NPPC is an excellent concept offering a structured booking procedure, protection for the farmer and a code of ethics for the shooter. I have never experienced any favouritism or bias and always found John Shooter to be a first class ambassador for the sport. I know he has done much work behind the scenes for the protection and advancement of our sport. I am also aware that he has been rewarded by former NPPC members making direct approaches to farmers and then cutting NPPC & members out of the shooting which to say the least is unethical.

[Ybird98]

Does anyone know where the nearest NPPC fields are in the Stoke area? I am new to shooting and I am looking to join or possibly get some permission to shoot in staffs area. If anyone can help I would really appreciate any advice.

 

Phil