deershooter Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Why have cartridge prices not come down we are being riped off again ! Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 simple, we started paying silly prices, so the industry maintained the prices. the stuff we are shooting now was made into shot 6 months or so ago. when i asked a cartridge company why the price of steel shells were up, they told me that because lead prices had increased. i told them there were no lead in steel shells..... i didnt get a reply.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 The only way to get prices reduced is for as many people as possible to contact the main manufacturers in the UK, confront them with the price chart and ask WHY lead has almost halved in the last 5 year yet we are seeing no benefit? If we all simply continue to pay they will carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Lead hasn't halved in price at all. Take some to a scrappy and you will still get around £1 a kilo, 5 years ago maybe I was getting it for half that, then it started going up and stayed there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Sits but the cartridge boys dont go to the scrappy they buy from LME $2550 in August 2011 now $1950 but June 2011 $1750 per ton approx £400 per ton cheaper The lead price has gone down by £12 per thousand x that by the ammount they produce per week and they are quids in Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=lead&months=60 Seems to have dropped in price a fair bit to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 If you buy the product they will maintain prices. Unless we make a concerted effort to complain to the cartridge manufacturers they will continue to profiteer. When lead prices dropped they said fuel had gone up, wages had gone up, transport charges have gone up, in fact any reason not to drop prices will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I can't see myself buying factory cartridges for a long long time right now, I have such a good supply of lead shot I'll be making my own for the forseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I can't see myself buying factory cartridges for a long long time right now, I have such a good supply of lead shot I'll be making my own for the forseeable future. Same here, Andy. Ain't it great? You are now the lead supremo! Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Same here, Andy. Ain't it great? You are now the lead supremo! Well done! All your fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Lead prices have fallen but transport costs have gone up quite sharply. Most cartridges are now imported and it is really surprising how little profit there is for suppliers in a market where shooters are already quite price sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 All your fault :lol: Sits in hedges and FC are both sitting on huge stockpiles causing a world shortage of lead. It's their fault it's so expensive :lol: Would you chaps mind awfully leaving me your lead in your wills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Manton, Perhaps we should ask, Why can Malmo, Ladds of Crediton & other gunshops import cartridges from Italy & Spain and sell them cheaper than Express, Hull, Eley & Gamebore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Manton, Perhaps we should ask, Why can Malmo, Ladds of Crediton & other gunshops import cartridges from Italy & Spain and sell them cheaper than Express, Hull, Eley & Gamebore? Not as greeeeeedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It would appear that lead has dropped nearly 40% from 2007 but the price I am paying for bagged shot does not reflect this. Most recent price here is around $35-40 25# of high antimony 7 1/2 lead. Price fluctuates by quantity purchased. Perhaps greed rules this domain as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Manton, Perhaps we should ask, Why can Malmo, Ladds of Crediton & other gunshops import cartridges from Italy & Spain and sell them cheaper than Express, Hull, Eley & Gamebore? Lets all buy just the imports for a few months,just to get the attenion of the home manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Lets all buy just the imports for a few months,just to get the attenion of the home manufacturers. You are already! The cases, primers, powder, wads and shot* are all made abroad. *a little is made here by Eley and Gamebore, but only small shot. We did this to the steel industry...... Edited August 30, 2012 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I suppose that evene if the price of lead has dropped in the last 5 years, the price of petrol and import taxes have gone up a fair bit. If you then consider the law on Haz-Mat, this restricts the competition on deliveries, so, the curier could put up whatever price he feels like as there are only a handful of them authorised to transport such materials. The minimum wage has also gone up in the last 5 years. Also, someone suggested a drop in price by £400 per tonne.....how much is this related to a 32gr cartridge? to me is about £0.01 which is about £ 0.25 per box... Manufacturer in Italy and Spain get cheaper powder (most of the powder used are produced in these two countries), home made lead, shells and wads, they don't pay much for transport due to short distances (some of them have their own transport department), hence the cheaper price. Also, if you consider that importer from UK buy them in 100 thousends and not just thousends, you see that price come down a fair bit. To me, as my name says, the continental cartridges are better with better quality component (although some save on quality powder) but in the end, if you reload yourself, it's still come cheaper. Good Idea would be to buy a tonne or so of lead from china (found it on ebay) or group toghether to buy one of these lead maker and recycle some scrap lead. If all reloaders from the same area (or driving distance) would do that, there won't be many buying cartridges anymore, hence the price will go down! I'd buy the machine myself, but wouldn't know where to get lead and the search would nullify any saving I can make on my own but if we were few.... Cheers the noo Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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