mr williamson Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hi guys iv read a couple of posts about guns being uncomfortable to shoot, is this somthing you notice when you get older? I dont realy feel the effects of recoil even through my very light sbs game gun firing alot of 35g black golds in a day. Maybe this cumbrian weather has numbed me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 It's cos you're well ard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 was shooting black gold through my auto yesterday at crows and they do have a kick to them, even more so with a light sbs, you must be made of sterner stuff fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 It's cos you're well ard. Ha ha If I fire 34 g no 5s out of the sbs and am not quite lined up rite it slaps me in the face lol So I must not be well ard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I don't have a problem with recoil, but noise gives me a headache. Some cartridges seem much noisier than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikaveli Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I find being fat / heavy helps absorb recoil. My thinner friends seem to feel the effects more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I'll give you an ultralight with 42gr 3's and you take it to the geese and shoot directly up, regardless of how "ARD" you are it's gonna hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Shooting a 10g I used to feel it quite a bit, and after a day of shooting clays with hull soverign FITASC at 1600fps now you no you are shooting those let me assure you even with a gun professionally fitted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr williamson Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Im not saying im ard lol ha ha but i dont notice the cartridges i use. Granted im bound to feel the recoil through a sbs with magnum cartridges but just trying to see why recoil from average weight cartridges bothers folk.?? the noise is prob worst part of it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 i am slim built recoil dosent bother me thru 12g 8 bore or .308 the only problem is not holding the gun right then you feel it thump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 It all depends what you term a "light game-gun" To me that would be 6 lbs (2.75 kg), which would make it perfectly well suited to firing loads of one to one-and one-sixteenth ozs, or 28 g - 32 g. 35 g loads would be more suited to a gun weighing something in the region of seven to seven-and-a-quarter pounds. That's because it's long been recognised by good gunmakers that a sporting shotgun should weigh approximately ninety-six times the charge it is intended to shoot. Felt recoil can be influenced by - obviously enough - the weight of the gun, and also by fit. An ill-fitting gun can dish out a fair bit of punishment. And the ability to absorb recoil counts for more than whether the shooter is heavily or lightly built - think of how a good boxer can "ride a punch". Another factor affecting recoil which isn't so commonly recognised is cartridge headspace - in crude terms, the amount of room the rim of the cartridge has when it's chambered. Some cartridges have thinner rims than others, and so can move to and fro very slightly when the gun is closed. Whilst this movement might appear almost imperceptible, it can add up to a fair bit of extra kick when the firing-pin pushes the cartridge forward as far as it can go, and the explosion of the charge slams it right back again. Some guns (the Darne and the Bretton), which are built very light, have actions which allow the chambers to be cammed up against the standing breech (or vice-versa), thus pretty much eliminating headspace. That's why these guns don't seem to recoil too severely in spite of their unconventional charge / weight ratio (the Baby Bretton in 12 bore with 3 inch chambers weighs only 5 lbs!) I can remember an experiment being done many years ago which was intended to reduce headspace-induced recoil in a game-gun. Very thin circular shims were introduced between the cartridges and the standing breech until all movement within the chambers had been eliminated whilst still allowing the gun to close comfortably. The shims were drilled to allow passage of the firing-pins and then fixed in place with Araldite. Subsequent tests proved that recoil was substantially reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hi guys iv read a couple of posts about guns being uncomfortable to shoot, is this somthing you notice when you get older? I dont realy feel the effects of recoil even through my very light sbs game gun firing alot of 35g black golds in a day. Maybe this cumbrian weather has numbed me lol do this for a full season, every day, then tell me you love recoil, dont forget there are people who shoot more than 5 times a week on game and it really counts, it adds up. i prefer to go up a shotsize than load and speed, going from #6 at 1600fps and a #4 at 1000fps, and realising at 40 yards and beyond, the #4 has more shot in the pattern and silly 70% more energy for less recoil ! i shoot low recoil ammo, i shoot fast ammo. on game slow big shot works wonders ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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