wildfowler.250 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I use lyalvale max game where I can,(50g 3" 1's) but I was thinking of maybe trying something like RC50's? Are they good? Or is there anything similar that you prefer? If you use something similar for foxing then also interested to hear your views,(if it'll stop a fox it'll kill a goose no prob). Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I use 42g BB steel in Gamebore Mammoth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 RC40 number 0 and 3 are the mutts, but i also like gambore buffalo 42 gram 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I use steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 RC40 number 0 and 3 are the mutts, but i also like gambore buffalo 42 gram 3 Thanks. How close is a size zero to BB's? I only noticed it yesterday when I was looking on justcartridges price list. I always thought it went from 1's to letters,(BB,AAA ect). I tend to prefer 50g loads but good to know you rate RC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 zero is about 3 sizes from BB. bb b 0 1 2 although some amnufacturers completely ignore 0 as this can be confused with 0 buckshot which is one size below 00 buckshot or "SG" just to add more confusion. however, 42g BB in lead should be more than up to it for goose, and dont even entertain SG in the air, they go for miles. they will kill on the way down to earth, its like firing 9, .38 in the air at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 i have a lot of time for RC50 50 gram size zero. i never usually go above a number 3 in lead as i have never found a BB shell that patterns well enough in my gun but these are between a no3 and BB and pattern very well through half choke in my sx3, as long as i can get them i cant see me changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 By law no "toxic" to be used! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 By law no "toxic" to be used! not necessarily, depends where you are shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrymallard Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I use RC50s 50g 3's with great effect on high ducks, still in 10 years never had an opportunity at a goose, I came close a few times. I also use Hull Solway 50g 3's and BB's for the same purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Cheers for the replies guys, gonna try and order up some RC50s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Following GB signing the African-Eurasian agreement it is now and has been for ages illegal to shoot ANY waterfowl with lead shot. Just googled it to make sure before posting!! Don't give the antis more ammo to ban lead altogether.....please! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Following GB signing the African-Eurasian agreement it is now and has been for ages illegal to shoot ANY waterfowl with lead shot. Just googled it to make sure before posting!! Don't give the antis more ammo to ban lead altogether.....please! GH its still ok in scotland as long as its not over wetlands http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/document-summary.cfm/docid/D5C9615C-C762-40F1-8AD9E3509B0B46E2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Following GB signing the African-Eurasian agreement it is now and has been for ages illegal to shoot ANY waterfowl with lead shot. Just googled it to make sure before posting!! Don't give the antis more ammo to ban lead altogether.....please! GH Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 RC40 number 0 and 3 are the mutts, but i also like gamebore buffalo 42 gram 3 +1 Following GB signing the African-Eurasian agreement it is now and has been for ages illegal to shoot ANY waterfowl with lead shot. Just googled it to make sure before posting!! Don't give the antis more ammo to ban lead altogether.....please! GH Go back and check again as I have been shooting inland for all legal wildfowl and waders, away from wetlands and watercourses, since 1995 and before with lead and I don`t want to be outside the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliS Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 If you use something similar for foxing then also interested to hear your views,(if it'll stop a fox it'll kill a goose no prob). I would strongly disagree with that last bit, foxes are pretty soft and don't take much to bowl over, geese are pretty tuff & fast. Before the lead ban and still to this day inland (I'm in scotland...) I use 3" 42g Eley Alphamax #3, it contains enough momentum to kill out to 50 yards and with a nice full pattern, the same shell in 2 3/4's can provide a better pattern in some guns choke depending. What ever you try make sure you pattern it to see what's best, no point ******* into the wind. My 10bore used to pattern 3 1/2" 3's very poorly with gaps ducks could easy get through at 30yards. I went a whole season before I hit a pattern plate to find my mistakes... All that extra cost on shells to be no better of than I was with my 12g. Non-toxic I use Hevishot... £££... Following GB signing the African-Eurasian agreement it is now and has been for ages illegal to shoot ANY waterfowl with lead shot. Just googled it to make sure before posting!! Don't give the antis more ammo to ban lead altogether.....please! GH Nope, It's illegal in Engalnd to shoot any waterfowl. In Scotland it is only illegal to use toxic shot over the foreshore and wet lands. N.B. there is also an exclusion zone around wet lands of I think 300 yards TBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) I used 50grm BB mammoth hi-birds on fox and according to their website they can take geese out cleanly at 90yrds. Edited October 16, 2012 by Liam-1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 according to their website they can take geese out cleanly at 90yrds. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coyotemaster Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I used 50grm BB mammoth hi-birds on fox and according to their website they can take geese out cleanly at 90yrds. Pellet energy and shooters ability are separate issues. Leads at 90 yds plus wind drift if it is blowing hard are a learned thing and not enough is ever done to thoroughly learn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 No cartridge can consitantly take out a goose at 90 yards. The size needed to kill at this range has to be BBor larger , but the pattern is too thin. You might fluke the odd one , but you will wound many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 No cartridge can consitantly take out a goose at 90 yards. The size needed to kill at this range has to be BBor larger , but the pattern is too thin. You might fluke the odd one , but you will wound many more. Yeah I'd go with that. Is there any chokes for lead in the 12 that you can buy that are tighter than a full? Whilst we are on the subject. Obviously the energy will still be the same, it's the pattern that's the problem. But I'm not thinking about shooting 90 yard birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Im only stating their claims, I wouldnt take a shot at anything at 90 yrds with a shotgun as my shooting abilities arnt good enough to even hit it never mind wound or kill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbrian top shot Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 RC40's and RC50's very good shells for the geese which I use but my preferred shell is the winchester xx 3'' BB's there big on recoil but they certainly come out on top its just a shame you can't get them anymore and my stock is running low, once there gone RC's all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 RC40's and RC50's very good shells for the geese which I use but my preferred shell is the winchester xx 3'' BB's there big on recoil but they certainly come out on top its just a shame you can't get them anymore and my stock is running low, once there gone RC's all the way. i loved the winchesters too but my supply ran dry. just bought 200 RC50's the other night for £96 (cheaper than the mammoths and the fiocchies i used last year) couldnt get the 0's so i got no3's instead, used them yesterday morning to bag 5 greylags all dead as dead can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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