crazyfrog Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I am thinking of making my own 12 Gauge shot, where is the best place to buy a shot maker.. Lead of course,,,,, Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I am thinking of making my own 12 Gauge shot, where is the best place to buy a shot maker.. Lead of course,,,,, Cheers Wow i never realised shot was gauge specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfrog Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 You know what I mean,,, It's for the 12 Gauge, I thought a constructive answer would certainly help me out I have looked for a few and seem to keep coming up with the states.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 You know what I mean,,, It's for the 12 Gauge, I thought a constructive answer would certainly help me out I have looked for a few and seem to keep coming up with the states.. With all respect, you ain't looked far! This section is the Mecca of shotmaking. Do some searching under my name, Sitsinhedges and the posts of those who have contributed. You may find yourself looking at posts from up to five years ago or more, but it will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 More to the point these days, where were you thinking of getting your lead from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 More to the point these days, where were you thinking of getting your lead from? church roof??????lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 church roof? ? ????lol I'm serious because I am finding it much harder to get lead than I used to. It was easy until a few years ago. I have a friendly plumber who gets some for me from time to time but apart from that a lot of sources have dried up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I am thinking of making my own 12 Gauge shot, where is the best place to buy a shot maker.. Lead of course,,,,, Cheers look in the reloading section on fleabay one for sale and still on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon driller Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Its a bit pricey at 300 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 if you think £300 is pricey you better stop looking to buy one and get making it yorself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Folkestone engineering used to sell them Why do you want to reload as for most loads at 12g you will not save any money Edited November 24, 2012 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Do a search for shotshell calculator on google to see how much it costs to home load various loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 ChrisAsh sorry mate i do not agree 3 of us reload we get our lead from mates in the building trade mainly roofers FREE we make our own shot size 7 for clays and 6 for pigeons and crows we buy our wads 15000 at a time, primers 9000 , and powder 15kilo hulls we get from the clay grounds.. Because we buy in bulk we get some good discounts so it costs us approx £100 per 1000 ...We don't take into account the time involved if we did it would be a lot more expensive but as 2 of us are retired it gives us some thing to do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfrog Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Hi Guys, sorry for not replying to any of these posts sooner, but been stuck up on a church roof overnight..... Only joking....... anyway I have a few sources for lead (all legal) two of which are tyre weight lead, a relation works in the tyre trade and another local tyre garage is going to help me out.. I will source lead in a few other areas.... As to prices, I saw the one on Fleabay at £300.... I have imported a Vertex Annealing machine and also a case trimmer from Giraud from the States at considerable cost, so if I have to import so be it, but was hoping to source something in the UK... Vertex and Giraud came in at just over £500 each and then the dreaded UK import taxes... I am in this for the long term so if I have a considerable outlay then so be it, I will recoup it in the long run.... Cheers for all the sensible comments so far and please keep them coming... Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfrog Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Thanks for this Floating Chamber, I have been looking at your posts and see that the tyre lead is a no go, I wasn't aware that it was Zinc rather than lead, I have left a message for my relation regarding the tyre weights, he hasn't got back to me yet, and I haven't nipped around to the scrappies I know as yet.. The scrap yard has sold me other metals in the past stainless etc, so lead or anything else is not a issue as long as I cross his palm with silver.. I have another relation in the roofing trade so I will have to give him a shout as well... I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket and buying a shot maker, but I see you have made yours, I have understood about 99% of the threads, one thing I am unsure of is the drilling of the bolts,,, do I have to drill the entire length through the middle of the thread end to the flat or is it just a case of drilling through the flat... I know just a case of drilling through the flat sounds a bit flippant, and I realise it may not be a simple operation.. Thanks... Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 you get a stainless steel bolt and drill a blind hole 3-4mm down the middle just enough not braking through then a .5 -.6mm hole from one of the flats to meet the first hole . use good quality drill bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi Guys, sorry for not replying to any of these posts sooner, but been stuck up on a church roof overnight..... Only joking....... anyway I have a few sources for lead (all legal) two of which are tyre weight lead, a relation works in the tyre trade and another local tyre garage is going to help me out.. I will source lead in a few other areas.... As to prices, I saw the one on Fleabay at £300.... I have imported a Vertex Annealing machine and also a case trimmer from Giraud from the States at considerable cost, so if I have to import so be it, but was hoping to source something in the UK... Vertex and Giraud came in at just over £500 each and then the dreaded UK import taxes... I am in this for the long term so if I have a considerable outlay then so be it, I will recoup it in the long run.... Cheers for all the sensible comments so far and please keep them coming... Regards Wheel weights aren't made of lead anymore so they will be useless. You need to find another source of antimony rich material such as linotype (which is mixed 1-3 with lead generally) and fluxed together with candle wax when alloying to clean the impurities. http://www.lasc.us/FryxellFluxing.htm The bolts are M8x12 stainless steel set screws ideally if you can get good enough drill bits to make the holes. My experience would leave me to believe that you want a 3-4mm hole up the length of the bolt, any bigger weakens it and means the threads can stretch easily. The hole into one of the flats to meet the hole up the length wants to be roughly 0.6mm for 7 shot, 0.8mm for 6 shot and 1.0mm for 5 shot though other factors will affect this. Ideally the tiny drills want to be HSS-Co (cobalt) anything less will struggle with the tough abrasive nature of stainless. Alternatively just make them out of standard M8 bolts. You can also buy tiny m8x12 copper washers that help seal the bolts against the pot face. A bit of graphite or copper ease on the threads make them easier to remove ultimately along with a torch to soften any lead that has got in the threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 ChrisAsh sorry mate i do not agree 3 of us reload we get our lead from mates in the building trade mainly roofers FREE we make our own shot size 7 for clays and 6 for pigeons and crows we buy our wads 15000 at a time, primers 9000 , and powder 15kilo hulls we get from the clay grounds.. Because we buy in bulk we get some good discounts so it costs us approx £100 per 1000 ...We don't take into account the time involved if we did it would be a lot more expensive but as 2 of us are retired it gives us some thing to do.. Hi Hawkeye Obviously if you get the major componant free it alters the game a fair bit, like running your car at £5 per hundred miles if you get your petrol free and if you buy bulk you also get savings You must admit for something like 12 gauge No 7's with plastic its a fine balance on buyin in to making, but with smaller or larger gauges it can be quite a lot cheaper, but then the 410 powders are twice the price of 12 gauge powders. For other cartridges in say 12 gauge you can make significant savings sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hi Chris We only load for 12g if we had to buy our lead which is the most expensive component then i dont think we would save much but as it is we make size 6 and 7 for less than half the price we would pay for them up here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 i saw for sale some recaimed lead shot, it was silly cheap. /kg. i was more thinking about re-dropping it to a set shotsize. mainly to remove the stones and grit / steel that may be present in the reclaiming process.? is this feasable or am i talking rubbish? i`ve never made shot yet. think i need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 i saw for sale some recaimed lead shot, it was silly cheap. /kg. i was more thinking about re-dropping it to a set shotsize. mainly to remove the stones and grit / steel that may be present in the reclaiming process.? is this feasable or am i talking rubbish? i`ve never made shot yet. think i need to. I have gathered hundreds of kilos of spent shot in the past....and reloaded after cleaning and 'conditioning' it. Does the job...... In the 1990s, there was a time when I'd get £400/tonne for reclaimed shot....and would spend the cash to get best Italian shot at £600/tonne! It was for a short period of time! The last reclaimed shot I bought was from Mid Wales in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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