I've been ripped off! Surely??

[jam1e]

Hi folks,

I decided to buy a different make of powder today along with 300 Bench Rest Primers to try, as i've heard good things about them.

The 1lb tub of IMR 8208 XBR was £42.95. That seemed ok. I think? (He is known to be expensive)

However, i'm sure the primers are way over priced.

I bought 300 CCI small rifle BR-4 primers. The price worked out a £5.79 per 100!

He initially said they were around £3.50 per 100 until i got to the till. Then he said the price was actually £5.79 and asked what i wanted to do. As i'm keen to test some br primers i said i would go ahead and buy them anyhow, so it was down to me to decide if i wanted them.

I paid around £2.00 per 100 for standard CCI primers from the same shop. And was given 200 Magtech primers from another rfd i visited a few weeks ago as i bought a box of bullets. Thanks UK CUSTOM SHOP LTD

So whats the verdict folks, was i robbed, or did i just pay for quality?

Cheers

Jamie

[jam1e]

Primers have been in short supply recently so although they seem a little towards the upper end of the price scale i wouldnt cry in your porrige over it. I lost a five pound note today and ho hum, not much i can do about that is there?

 

I guess not.... Even if you still sound a tad perturbed! But if they are taking the **** with inflated prices, i can do something about it by sourcing them elsewhere in the future....

As you say, no big deal. I just like to pay a fair price not an inflated price. And as i'm new to reloading i don't always know off-hand what is considered to be fair.

Edited November 28, 2012 by jam1e

[Redgum]

I had a similar experience with cci large rifle primers, I expect to pay £3.50 to £4 per 100 for cci 200. I had to have a good look round for cci's as in short supply, I bought afew hundred from a differant RFD, at the till they were over a fiver. It turned out he had picked up bench rest primers by mistake and these apparently are more expensive. With the worry of running out of primers I did some research on the net and it seems there aint much differance between run of the mill primers and bench rest performance wise. Luckily its of no concern now as I have 1500 cci 200's in stock, happy days.

[Alycidon]

Fed 205s are even dearer !!.

 

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[jam1e]

I had a similar experience with cci large rifle primers, I expect to pay £3.50 to £4 per 100 for cci 200. I had to have a good look round for cci's as in short supply, I bought afew hundred from a differant RFD, at the till they were over a fiver. It turned out he had picked up bench rest primers by mistake and these apparently are more expensive. With the worry of running out of primers I did some research on the net and it seems there aint much differance between run of the mill primers and bench rest performance wise. Luckily its of no concern now as I have 1500 cci 200's in stock, happy days.

Cheers Redgum.

The price seems about right then.

The 300 i bought will last me a while anyhow as most of my shooting at the moment is load testing.

As i now have 3 brands of primers i'll make up a few groups of 5 that are identical as possible bar the primers and check if theres a difference.

Thats after i find the most accurate powder load that is.....

[Vince Green]

I just bought 1000 CCI large rifle primers for £35 They are in the newest style packaging, I thought that was expensive but they will last me a few years. The dealer I bought them from is usually pretty good on prices. I bought some FMJ bullets at the same time for £7.50 a 100

Edited November 29, 2012 by Vince Green

[al4x]

there will be ****** all difference in the primer stick with the CCI's you'll never notice the difference in normal use

[al4x]

glad I have 800 in the drawer beside me in that case

[pestcontrol1]

there will be ****** all difference in the primer stick with the CCI's you'll never notice the difference in normal use

i started using normal CCI small primers in my 204 and they could"t take any presure the bench rest are fine with over a grain more powder in then the normal primers so i would say there is a big difference between them.

As for price jamie i think i paid about £38 or £39 per 1000

[al4x]

weird that the pressures should be so much higher sounds like they need a warning if they are that dangerous in the 204,

Edited November 29, 2012 by al4x

[magnum]

last time i got 1000 cci br primmers they where £35 in march(but i am now down to my last 100 not sure whot they are going cost now)

[Redgum]

i started using normal CCI small primers in my 204 and they could"t take any presure the bench rest are fine with over a grain more powder in then the normal primers so i would say there is a big difference between them.

As for price jamie i think i paid about £38 or £39 per 1000

Not sure what you mean by 'couldnt take any pressure', the primer aint going to effect how much pressure your rifle will take. They may flatten with over pressure, they may drop out on recycling, but if you put enough powder in they would certainly 'take enough pressure' to peel your barrel like a banana.

[Bewsher500]

The LR BR CCI primers are as near as dammit the same as the standard CCI 200 LR primers in terms of burn rate/heat

 

lucky I am sitting on 2000 of them f thehave risen in price!

[JonathanL]

I had a similar experience with cci large rifle primers, I expect to pay £3.50 to £4 per 100 for cci 200. I had to have a good look round for cci's as in short supply, I bought afew hundred from a differant RFD, at the till they were over a fiver. It turned out he had picked up bench rest primers by mistake and these apparently are more expensive. With the worry of running out of primers I did some research on the net and it seems there aint much differance between run of the mill primers and bench rest performance wise. Luckily its of no concern now as I have 1500 cci 200's in stock, happy days.

 

There is essentially no difference. I queried it with CCI a while back and the reply was that benchrest primers are a harder cup with standard priming compound in them. They make them harder because bench-rest shooters often use loads which generate very high pressures. Magnum primers are the bench-rest cup with a more energetic priming compound.

 

J.

[JonathanL]

i started using normal CCI small primers in my 204 and they could"t take any presure the bench rest are fine with over a grain more powder in then the normal primers so i would say there is a big difference between them.

As for price jamie i think i paid about £38 or £39 per 1000

 

See my post above - there isn't any difference in the priming compound. If you have weighed them as being heavier it's because they use a different metal cup.

 

J.

[al4x]

I think he means he can push his loads and doesn't get the pressure signs with a different primer.

[pestcontrol1]

for examaple 204 load data for 32gn vmax (min 26gn max 28.3gn )H335 i could not get this load over 27.5gn with cci 400 small primers they would flattern out and or blow holes in them were the pin hit changed to the br primers no problems even at max load.

I had the same problems with H4895 with 32gn & 39gn bullets