Mick Shaw Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 It may be worth handeling the Caeser, they are very well made guns,exelent triger pulls, and for me handle like Beretta's Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 If looking at the ultra XS go for the prestige as it handles better with the lighter chokes than the std,plus you get an adjustable comb,they are heavier than the Berettas,so the swing is less whippy on them,the 30" is a dream. There isn't much between the 525 and 725 I think,maybe 525 a bit heavier in the swing,but 725 trigger pulls better than 525,XS triggers are sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Whatever you decide, enjoy the shopping. You've earned the money, now the salesmen can earn theirs by helping you get the right gun. It sounds as if you're looking for a keeper, so take your time and savour the hunt. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Whatever you decide, enjoy the shopping. You've earned the money, now the salesmen can earn theirs by helping you get the right gun. It sounds as if you're looking for a keeper, so take your time and savour the hunt. Good luck. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 If looking at the ultra XS go for the prestige as it handles better with the lighter chokes than the std,plus you get an adjustable comb,they are heavier than the Berettas,so the swing is less whippy on them,the 30" is a dream. There isn't much between the 525 and 725 I think,maybe 525 a bit heavier in the swing,but 725 trigger pulls better than 525,XS triggers are sweet. The action on the 725 is a lot slimmer than the 525, almost Berettaesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is it me or does all purpose built clay weaponry look like like a cement mixer? These days i'd buy a lovely looking game gun and hang the fact i's shoot less "birds" on a clay ground. Shooting black disc's is for practice isn't it? The savings could be better spent on a few driven days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_morris Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 A slight deviation then - apart from 'it feels right' what technicaly defines how a gun fits properly. It shoots where you point it? Eye alignment centrally above the barrel. Being able to see the rib/bead, but not too much? I have just messed around practice mounting my existing 687. If I relax, and mount with my eyes closed, or not focusing on the gun, invariably end up not being able to see any of the rib or bead (maybe the top edge of the bead) - does this suggest my eye line is too low. The stock has 36mm/55mm drop which seems normal from what I can tell. If I concentrate on my mounting it is normally not so bad - but maybe not natural - so that does not transfer to my shooting, where I focus on the clay. Cheers Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is it me or does all purpose built clay weaponry look like like a cement mixer? These days i'd buy a lovely looking game gun and hang the fact i's shoot less "birds" on a clay ground. Shooting black disc's is for practice isn't it? The savings could be better spent on a few driven days? Years ago I was talking to an aged club motorcycle racer. He raced a Moto Morini 3.5 ( ancient Italian V-Twin ). I asked why he raced it when a Yamaha 350LC was so much quicker. He said " You don't understand", and I didn't. Now I do. I think you would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 A slight deviation then - apart from 'it feels right' what technicaly defines how a gun fits properly. It shoots where you point it? Eye alignment centrally above the barrel. Being able to see the rib/bead, but not too much? I have just messed around practice mounting my existing 687. If I relax, and mount with my eyes closed, or not focusing on the gun, invariably end up not being able to see any of the rib or bead (maybe the top edge of the bead) - does this suggest my eye line is too low. The stock has 36mm/55mm drop which seems normal from what I can tell. If I concentrate on my mounting it is normally not so bad - but maybe not natural - so that does not transfer to my shooting, where I focus on the clay. Cheers Rich Too low, jack it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Years ago I was talking to an aged club motorcycle racer. He raced a Moto Morini 3.5 ( ancient Italian V-Twin ). I asked why he raced it when a Yamaha 350LC was so much quicker. He said " You don't understand", and I didn't. Now I do. I think you would too. Very good answer, its because you can, and you enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Years ago I was talking to an aged club motorcycle racer. He raced a Moto Morini 3.5 ( ancient Italian V-Twin ). I asked why he raced it when a Yamaha 350LC was so much quicker. He said " You don't understand", and I didn't. Now I do. I think you would too. We do Catweazle, we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_morris Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Well, After a few hours trying various guns, and having a good discussion with instructor, I finally made a choice. I have gone for a Browning 725 Sporter with 32" barrels. The instructor did confirm a few things for me. My old 687 was to low in the comb. Apparently new Berettas are higher in the comb than older ones like mine. He aslo pointed out a few things I nees to keep an eye on with by gun mounting/hold. Well woth the time spent with an instructor. I am going back for another session soon. Thanks all. And to those concerned about my expensive tastes - I was under what I originally was contemplating spending! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 The main thing is you have got a gun that you are happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Well done.....now enjoy... Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Great choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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