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Auchen where? If you are referring to auchencairn then you are on solway wildfowlers club ground and will require a day permit! And with the amount of flood water and recent moon you are wasting your time for this season.

 

last a heard there was plenty up there fella...not sure at mobut someone will reply with a more positive answer..good luck :good:

Who told you that ****?

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Auchen where? If you are referring to auchencairn then you are on solway wildfowlers club ground and will require a day permit! And with the amount of flood water and recent moon you are wasting your time for this season.

 

 

Who told you that ****?

free shooting !!! craig
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Auchen where? If you are referring to auchencairn then you are on solway wildfowlers club ground and will require a day permit! And with the amount of flood water and recent moon you are wasting your time for this season.

 

 

Who told you that ****?

mind ya own..ye obviously dont want to help the lad..typical..wouldnt expect any thing else...stick to the english side knowles and take no notice of markyboy who owns the solway...or so it seems....sad!! :no:
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Do you want to see my maps like?

mark,dont make this forum like the other fowling forum !can you remember a couple of years ago when you new nothing about fowling and reloading,and i got in touch with you when you wanted to know where overton marsh was on the solway,it was 10 mins from your back door and you where that green you coudnt even look on a map to find it,but good old craig told you.dont forget,ive been driving up there since you were in nappies.from the chap who,ll help most people. craig
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I travel up to the Solway for a week ever January, try to get out at (or should that be in) Auchencairn for a couple of flights depends on the tide ect during the week. Must admit I never new it was Solway Wildfowlers. Been going on there for over 20 years never been ask for ticket or anything. Come to that I can't remember the last time I came across another fowler there.

 

On the other hand the place is alive with Barnacles, the numbers seem to have increased ever year.

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I thort the scots solway bowlers just giv permits t allow parking in a farm yard or something!? It says something in basc wildfowling permit booklet...will go dig it out.

 

I thought it was just caeverlock (sp) that you need a permit to shoot.

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Maybe i am wrong and if so please correct me...

but as the foreshore in England is private land and the offence of trespass exists, then in England clubs obtain the shooting rights and leases, therefore you have to be a member or get a guest ticket.

 

But in Scotland, no offence of trespass, no leasing of crown foreshore (does it exist north of the border) therefore no permit required except in certain locations, eg caeverlock and other nature reserves made with certain powers

 

If clubs could make it private and control the shooting then surley the rspb would stop you shooting at the foreshore in front of their reserves.

 

however if the guest ticket meant you were accompanied and gain some 'local' insight I would find it more acceptable.

 

Apart from on forums, I have always found local shooters I have met in Scotland to be good natured. most acknowledge that the tourist shots increase the viability of their hotels, gun shops, pubs etc. Its only very few have the 'its mine, all mine so **** orf' attitude.

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Maybe i am wrong and if so please correct me...

but as the foreshore in England is private land and the offence of trespass exists, then in England clubs obtain the shooting rights and leases, therefore you have to be a member or get a guest ticket.

 

But in Scotland, no offence of trespass, no leasing of crown foreshore (does it exist north of the border) therefore no permit required except in certain locations, eg caeverlock and other nature reserves made with certain powers

 

If clubs could make it private and control the shooting then surley the rspb would stop you shooting at the foreshore in front of their reserves.

 

however if the guest ticket meant you were accompanied and gain some 'local' insight I would find it more acceptable.

 

Apart from on forums, I have always found local shooters I have met in Scotland to be good natured. most acknowledge that the tourist shots increase the viability of their hotels, gun shops, pubs etc. Its only very few have the 'its mine, all mine so **** orf' attitude.

 

I have met more english than Scottish fowlers in Scotland.

I know of a few scot fowlers who do not like us 'tourists' shooting up there due to the bus loads of have a go fowlers shooting at any and all regardless of range, paints a bad picture for us. A great shame.

 

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I have met more english than Scottish fowlers in Scotland.

I know of a few scot fowlers who do not like us 'tourists' shooting up there due to the bus loads of have a go fowlers shooting at any and all regardless of range, paints a bad picture for us. A great shame.

 

It is a great shame but its also a great shame to keep perpetuating the myth on forums like this. I'm not saying it doesn't happen as I know it does but my experiences of bad behaviour on the marsh have involved more local fowlers than visitors.

 

Some seem to take great pleasure in winding up other fowlers with stories of bus loads of inappropriately armed visitors taking potshots at anything and all that flys. All bad behaviour on any marsh bringing fowling into disrepute should be dealt with though I admit outside of the Club system it is difficult.

 

On another point I haven't visited the Solway for 2 or 3 seasons but when I do I always buy a Ticket from the local club. In my opinion so should anybody else visiting the Club marshes

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you can shoot below the high water mark without a permit perfectly legally, and you are allowed to cross the club's land above the HWM to get to the crown foreshore, but your gun must be unloaded and in a cover so you do not get done for armed tresspass. i go to ruthwell every year and shoot below the HWM of scottish wildfowlers land and never have to get a permit.

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you can shoot below the high water mark without a permit perfectly legally, and you are allowed to cross the club's land above the HWM to get to the crown foreshore, but your gun must be unloaded and in a cover so you do not get done for armed tresspass. i go to ruthwell every year and shoot below the HWM of scottish wildfowlers land and never have to get a permit.

I thought you need a permit to shoot there? I went to ruthwell last year, and I'm going there again on Friday. I spoke to Davey Campbell today and I'll be picking up a permit off him before I go, as far as I'm aware that's Scottish Wildfowler's land.

 

... Just re-read your post. So your saying as long as you're shooting below the water mark, you don't need a permit??

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you can shoot below the high water mark without a permit perfectly legally, and you are allowed to cross the club's land above the HWM to get to the crown foreshore, but your gun must be unloaded and in a cover so you do not get done for armed tresspass. i go to ruthwell every year and shoot below the HWM of scottish wildfowlers land and never have to get a permit.

 

No wonder the local fowlers who are Club members or visitors who take the trouble to buy tickets feel aggrieved if that is common practice and attitude.

 

What do you do at high tide?

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I always buy a permit, its only £6 and it gives you somewhere to park. These will be the clubs fighting to keep fowling if the rspb etc try anything on so I will happily pay the money for the brief time i'm up there.

And has been mentioned if its high water I can still fowl, pretty vital if flight time coinsides with high.

I'm yrt to see a bus in the carpark

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Well i am surprised at the response i only wanted to find out wether there were any pinks up there. It funny how i have shot auchenchain for 10 years not only that my dad has been going for 40 years and the only thing he has ever said about the solway wildfowlers is that they took the access away from the cottage to get on the middle bay. Also i know at least 20 people who shoot there and arent in the solway. My dad even remembers a flight were the cocklers (me!! but not at that time) drove out on there quauds and put up all the geese and messed the flight up

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No one is saying you have to be a member of the club to shoot the foreshore, you should buy a permit to use their carparks or shoot above highwater mark, and in my opinion we should buy a permit if for no other reason than to help them should the need arise to fight the rspb etc, just look at the fuss in wigtown and they have a permit scheme. Its only £6 at the end of the day.

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