JimLondon Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Hi all I'm a SGC holder and my farmer has asked for me to take care of a fox and other vermin/ pest problems on his land. My question is this, is there a licence for small calibre rifles that is up to the job and easier to obtain than trying for an FAC. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesbach Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Try calling them in and use your shotgun. Nothing other than FAC rifle will be up to shooting it otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Depending on how long you have held a shotgun certificate, you may as well apply for an FAC. As the farmer has asked you to take of foxes etc, then that's your reason for applying for one. I know of someone, who held a shotgun licence for 18 months, then obtained an FAC for centrefire just after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 You can use your sgc for foxs but you will have to call them in that's what I use to do Falling that get your fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thanks for the advice had my SGC for 20yrs, I did ask a gun dealer about FAC and he said it takes about 6 years to get it as I'd have to be a member of a club for a certain amount of time , then further checks ie inspection of land I'd shoot on etc. Thanks again Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peskyfoxs Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) It takes nothing like 6 years to get unless you meant months? its just like applying for the shotgun and if you have land then you don't need to be a member of a club to show a need for a firearm. Apply...have interview ... get Fac .. Simples Edited January 9, 2013 by Peskyfoxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think he ment to say months, but that's for target shooting. If you have the land, your sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thanks again ill get the ball rolling Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Jim you'll get loads of offers from here to show you on your land too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunneravi Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Calling in with the 12 is fun. Wait for the really cold weather when food is thin on the ground and they'll run to a decent call!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Now that is something I think I would welcome, I'd much prefer to be mentored than just go out and wing it so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I suppose my next question would be what sort of calibre would I need for foxes and small deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 In the situation you describe, I don't think you should have any problem obtaining a FAC. If you ask for a cf .22 for fox/vermin and a rimfire for vermin it should cover what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidment78 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Sounds like a great chance to get your FAC and calling in foxes close for the shotgun. I would say any calibre rimfire or centre would take a fox if in the right hands but if you apply for FAC specifically for fox then it depends where you live they may have a minimum calibre for fox so would be worth doing a bit of digging before hand. I have .17 hmr, .223 and .243 and find that they all work as well but the .243 is set mainly for deer and with 100 grain heads they are not great as overpenetrate but this is just what I have found out. I have to say the .17 is probably my favorite at the moment for vermin as out to 100 yrds it is so flat it is almost cheating really, only downside is it is a little loud but I do not seem to find this upsets the animals as much as I thought it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Surely that is "Good reason" for obtaining a FAC, even if it comes back with conditions for mentoring you're on the right road. I did it the other way around and went straight for FAC.... no probs Edited January 10, 2013 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 but I do not seem to find this upsets the animals as much as I thought it would. :lol:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks for the advice had my SGC for 20yrs, I did ask a gun dealer about FAC and he said it takes about 6 years to get it as I'd have to be a member of a club for a certain amount of time , then further checks ie inspection of land I'd shoot on etc. Thanks again Jim He's wrong. You don't need to be a member of a club and it takes as long as the police need to issue a certificate - similar to when they renew your SGC. You need apply for your FAC for a suitable foxing rifle, and perhaps another caliber for whatever other pests (rabbits?) you've been asked to control. Give details of what you will shoot with each gun, and on what land (including something from the farmer stating you have permission to shoot these things on his land), find two referees to sign it and stick it in the post. You need a separate place to lock up the rifle ammo as it has to be secured, and not with the rifles. You should be able to use your shotgun cabinet for the rifle(s) if they'll fit in. The only other way is to stick with the shotgun, which can be effective on foxes. If you need anything for longer ranges though, you need to go the FAC route, there is not a half way measure. If you go for a FAC you may be required to have another shooter supervise you when using your rifle, this usually expires after a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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