Elmer Fudd 1 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 im thinking of either getting a 16inch cz synthetic or getting a 12.5 inch ruger 10/22 hogue stock just to keep things short for hunting really. im currently on a 21inch cz(toooo long) it made me wonder at what length would all of the powder be burnt and indeed what is the shorest i can go? the reason i ask is a barrel too long is unnecessary weight and length but too short and you get a fireball i have a sirocco sm11 mod going on the end its about 6 inches but whats the shortest length id get away with? fudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 from what i read before deciding on mine the powder is burnt in the first 9". barrel length after 16" slows the bullet. mines got a 12.5" volquartsen barrel and no complaints about that. theres quite a bit of info floating about on the net, and rimfire central forum is a good place to have a browse of if you're looking at rugers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I understand that 16" is the optimum, after that a longer barrel slows it down. 14" could be a good choice, I don't think you'll notice any difference on a .22lr between 16 or 14 - in fact I doubt you'd have a problem with it down to 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I understand that 16" is the optimum, after that a longer barrel slows it down. 14" could be a good choice, I don't think you'll notice any difference on a .22lr between 16 or 14 - in fact I doubt you'd have a problem with it down to 12. This is something I am wanting to so with mine I was thinking about going right down to 12 inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I had my CZ 511 cut down to 14". It's great in confined spaces and is probably a bit more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 my understanding is 16" gives you maximum velocity, although any losses either way are very marginal. the 16" barrel length is an american thing, its their minimum length which is why a lot of aftermarket ruger barrels, tactical solutions etc are that length, its not to do with barrel accuracy or bullet velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 What's the standard barrel lengh on a 22 lr target pistol ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I have just had my ruger cut down by mike norris he tweaked the trigger while i was there as well Elmer pm me if you need any more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 can rugers be brought new with 12.5 inch barrels or does it need to be an aftermarket job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I was advised not to cut mine any lower than 16" and that seems to be great to swing around in my L200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 My ruger has a 12.5 barrel and works very well nice and accurate and short for in the jeep. The hogue stock feels great and makes the gun very comfortable to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I love my 16" s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I had mine cut to 13" from 20" and it is brilliant! No more noise and no less accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I chrono'd some ammo in three essentially identical rtifles a few months ago. One had a long barrel, one had a shorter one and the other was shorter still. The end result was that, to all intents and purposes, the long barrel was longer than it needed to be as it produced lower velocities. Clearly the powder was exhausted before the bullet exited the muzzle. I think that the middle length barrel recorded the highest velocity, if memory serves. However, the longer barreal was certainly the more accurate of the three. I doubt that that had much to do with barrel length though. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 i really want to go for the ruger now but still after all of the gun tragedies in america over the last few months i feel like our laws are soon to change this is by no means fact but if gun laws are changing then wouldn't 22 semi autos be the next to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I was informed by a Technicial advisor at Anschutz their Rifles have done everything its going to do in the first 9 inches , Be Very careful cutting down to 12 inches because a fraction under 12 and it becomes a Section 5 Better to go 12 1/2 inches to be safe Also get it cut and Screw cut by a Good/competant Rifle smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pond digger 007 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 12.5" Kidd on mine and its spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I was informed by a Technicial advisor at Anschutz their Rifles have done everything its going to do in the first 9 inches , Be Very careful cutting down to 12 inches because a fraction under 12 and it becomes a Section 5 Better to go 12 1/2 inches to be safe Also get it cut and Screw cut by a Good/competant Rifle smith like this, have a look at the charge in a .22 sub and you will think 9" long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 i saw a factory barrel on rim fire magic at 12.5inches so i would imagine that you can buy them on a standard gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I was informed by a Technicial advisor at Anschutz their Rifles have done everything its going to do in the first 9 inches , Be Very careful cutting down to 12 inches because a fraction under 12 and it becomes a Section 5 Better to go 12 1/2 inches to be safe Also get it cut and Screw cut by a Good/competant Rifle smith Nice to know that thank you mr bosher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 what if you are using high velocity ammo,? what length of barrel do you need to burn all the powder, many assume only using sub sonic ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 what if you are using high velocity ammo,? what length of barrel do you need to burn all the powder, many assume only using sub sonic ammo I seriously doubt any difference the quantity of the powder will not be much higher just higher energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 There seems a lot of 'someone inthe know told me' already here but... Someone in the know told me 14" is the optimum. I was going to have mine cut to 16 but he talked me into 14 and I am glad I did. The quality of the crown and thread probably play a bigger part than the length accuracy wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 i was hoping that the gun had a short factory barrel anyway so the crowning probably would be good of the bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Fair point. However the crown I have on my CZ is nothing like the factory one. I should add, if anything it is even more accurate now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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