bigman Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Been using clear pigeon though the escort as well as other carts with no issues , went an shot some clays at the weekend so brought a slab of white diamond xlr and had lots of lite strikes some wouldn't go for love nor money just click , what causes this? Is it the primer used in the white diamonds It was very irritating along with my rather poor shooting also :-) , Edited February 19, 2013 by bigman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Could be a batch with"hard" primers, or a worn firing pin! Edited February 19, 2013 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Well it gives me another excuse for poor performance , does start to get annoying seemed to be around 1 in 3 shells not firing , some did second time round some not at all , Firing pin looks ok , I'm going to fire the rest off thou the o/u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Bring some of the fired ones from the Hatsan with you on the 2nd of March! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Bring some of the fired ones from the Hatsan with you on the 2nd of March! There in the bin at lakenheath , on inspection I did notice that there was hardly a mark on the ones that wouldn't fire thinking about it Im guessing it's the primers , I'll save a box or two and bring them along , They did seem cheap £45 a slab Also on the plate some seemed to hit alot harder than others did , not many but a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Eley have had batches of carts with primers set too low in the head causing misfires. Game bore might have the same or hard primers. Figgy Edited February 19, 2013 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmarksman9870 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 i had the same problem with my escort fac with eley highflyers... take out the trigger give it a good clean and oil all the moving parts the hammer plunger type spring gets dry that may cause the hammer to strike the pin a little light. never had a problem with clear pigeons .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Try them in another gun before you complain and blame the cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Try them in another gun before you complain and blame the cartridges Only reason I was thinking the cartridges is Iv Tryed 4 other type in he escort an never had the issue before , but as you say I will be trying them thou the o/u and will report back , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Other thing to look at! Are the walls of the cart uniform and flat?. some carts bulge when being crimped and you will get the shot deforming the walls. This can cause a feed issue where the cart will be tight in the breech and the bolt will not travel fully forward. This can cause misfires! Just a thought! Also I fine Semi Auto's shave a little plastic off the cart while chambering. this ends up eventually making it's way into the firing pin port and mixed with oil n crud starts to gum up the pin. Every now and then strip the bolt out strip it down clean it up. I found the same with O/U's where you can end up with filings from the cart bases down the pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Are you letting the action go back by itself when releasing it? Or do you guide it gently with your hand? When closing the action you must let it 'slam' closed naturally. I know it feels harsh on the hatsans but simetimes the bolt is short and this can result in the pin not being able ti hit the primer. Had this problem with my hatsan and was quickly sorted by letting the action shut by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Are you letting the action go back by itself when releasing it? Or do you guide it gently with your hand? When closing the action you must let it 'slam' closed naturally. I know it feels harsh on the hatsans but simetimes the bolt is short and this can result in the pin not being able ti hit the primer. Had this problem with my hatsan and was quickly sorted by letting the action shut by itself. Now this could be an issue mate , I do feather it closed alittle as was unsure on letting it slam shut I do fully clean the gun every time I use it bolt n pin included an trigger group as its so easy to drop out , Cheers for the input mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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