Greymaster Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Just happened on this obituary of a remarkable soldier, who died in 1994. "They'll cheat you yet, those Germans." More here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/military-obituaries/army-obituaries/5048954/Captain-Charles-Upham-VC-and-Bar.html VC and Bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 its brought a tear to my eye reading about his bravery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdix22 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 One hell of a brave fella! R.I.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 This should be compulsory reading for all school children (adults too). Lest we forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 A real hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 True hero. He must be turning in his grave at the state of this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 When I read of the exploits of such men, in the service of Great Britain and the Empire/Commonwealth and FREEDOM, I always wonder what they must think of how GB turned out after all their deeds of derring do, to preserve a way of life, decency and honour, and how their heroics have been somewhat betrayed. The GB of today is unrecognisable, and indeed the rot did set in after we abandoned the Commonwealth and sold ourselves to the Common Market which is now the EU, and the pollution which is "multi-culturalism". I imagine NZ is somewhat nearer to the society that GB was in the '70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Great man no question, but the constant abusing of Germans by generations that had nothing to do with any war with the Germans amazes me. There are many on here that are ex forces and we all had a great time in Germany with the locals and in the land...............shakes head. Edited March 26, 2013 by Traztaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 True but equally there are many on here who have close relatives who were very much involved in the war. Either way a very brave man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Great man no question, but the constant abusing of Germans by generations that had nothing to do with any war with the Germans amazes me. There are many on here that are ex forces and we all had a great time in Germany with the locals and in the land...............shakes head. Can't see where any on this thread have abused the Germans. The quote is from the Hero, who knew a darn sight more about the Germans than anyone on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 wow! what a soldier... it don't amaze me what the older generations feel..they seen it, or had personal feelings towards the Germans and the japs...as hard as it is for us to understand..we still need to respect their feelings, we can only ever feel what we go through... look what this generation now feels towards the middle east or just look at the falklands era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchill Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Lest we forget, And not lets forget those who are still fighting today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The man earned the right to have his own opinions. He is beyond criticism. It required a different mind set to be prepared, as he was, to sacrifice everything for what you believe. These days we cannot imagine how he had to think so we should accept ......first sentence. The bravest of the brave - for Valour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppythedog Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Prophetic words indeed. Another earlier VC winner & equally devoid of fear was this chap, there is an inscription on the wall of Thiepval Church although he survived WW1. He fought in the Boer War, World War I, and World War II; was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip and ear; survived a plane crash, tunnelled out of a POW camp, and bit off his own fingers when a doctor wouldn't amputate them. He later said "frankly I had enjoyed the war." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 It has to be asked; if it is not recent news, why post it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 telling the enemy to give his jeep a push, that made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 It has to be asked; if it is not recent news, why post it? why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 It has to be asked; if it is not recent news, why post it? to be honest Henry..I have never seen this before, and enjoyed reading the article. They say the Bible is over 2000 years old ,yet it still gets its contents posted on here often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 mmmmmmmm, dont think he knows more about Germans than anyone on here. I have lived here for 25 years, am amrried to one and have two children here...........he was doing a job, same as any soldier, and like any soldier you will find when the fighting is finished he views the former enemy as just that, former, they also are just people doing a job. This is said by someone who has faught in gulf1 , Bosnia, Kosovo , Gulf 2 and Afghanistan.............think my take might be a little more enlightened than yours maybe? Can't see where any on this thread have abused the Germans. The quote is from the Hero, who knew a darn sight more about the Germans than anyone on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Somthing else has just occoured to me, my wifes maiden name is witzkovskie, and her family came from the Danzig area of germany origionally, as WW2 was drawing to a close this was an area the Russians were comming to, my mother in law as a 7 year old child with her 12 year old brother, having lost their parents donned ice skates and legged it 70 odd miles down a canal to avoid the nast ******* that were comming Mother in law sits happily chatting with my sons girlfriend as we speak.............Germans, Brits and Russians...........and yep my old grandad who was in WW2 , and my beloved German uncle who was in ww2 , we all did the same.................time you lot woke up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 to be honest Henry..I have never seen this before, and enjoyed reading the article. They say the Bible is over 2000 years old ,yet it still gets its contents posted on here often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Is waking up akin to rewriting history i.e. We should not admire these men for their bravery. Perhaps we should pretend it never happened? yup, ok. Makes sense. Im sure you fraternise with and admire your former foes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Take it your irish? Funny that because I am ............................. strange old world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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