jef Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I've asked at the farm tonight if it would be feasable to rent an acre to sow our own game crop for this coming season. It would be a long thin strip at the side of a field of wheat. Any idea what we should expect to pay if we get the nod?? Thanks JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi1210 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Well I think farmers harvest 4 ton of wheat per acre. So how much is that.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny tim Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 they might get 4 ton per acre but its not all profit. fuel ,wages etc...we pay £300 to one farmer for a corner and £350 to another which is block on the edge of a field..both acre plots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 just had a look at may's wheat prices and there around £200 mark so if they get that work out how much the farmers loosing out on and offer him a suitable price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 yeah but that £200 per ton less ...... seed / contractor to cultivate, sow and harvest / fertiliser / chemicals ....... the profit in a ton of wheat will be much less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper23 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 on one farm i pay £80 p/a. and £180 on another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexfluke Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Think it depends on the crop or the type of wheat I have been quoted 700 pa at current prices for next year, this is based on the farmers current price hes getting of 250 per ton and sowing and seed costs for the cover. On the plus side we get two woods and duck shooting for free which is handy as this is are first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Think it depends on the crop or the type of wheat I have been quoted 700 pa at current prices for next year, this is based on the farmers current price hes getting of 250 per ton and sowing and seed costs for the cover. On the plus side we get two woods and duck shooting for free which is handy as this is are first year. Good luck with it Luke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexfluke Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 cheers it will be are first year lots to do and get. Have managed to sort out about 30 feeders so far and got enough stuff for one and a half pens. Just need it to dry up so we can get on.Birds coming in July. How was your season Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Lots of things to consider. Will the land have to be taken out of his particular SFP scheme, it depends on the level he's in. What rents are in your area. Will it be an inconvenience to the farm. Round here grazing is £80/acre. Land for game crops is upwards of £1500/acre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yep and whilst you can strip out the costs of production to calculate the profit he is losing from not growing wheat, you have to add fair bit of it back in for seed, cultivating, spray to get a stale seed bed, drilling of the game cover. That said, choose a suitable mix, and he should be able to use it as wild bird cover, and may be able to get something back from a stewardship scheme. Depends how much he wants to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yep and whilst you can strip out the costs of production to calculate the profit he is losing from not growing wheat, you have to add fair bit of it back in for seed, cultivating, spray to get a stale seed bed, drilling of the game cover. That said, choose a suitable mix, and he should be able to use it as wild bird cover, and may be able to get something back from a stewardship scheme. Depends how much he wants to help you. yup like teal says we have a farmer who puts 2ach in for free as he gets paid for it, and he made 2 ponds for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyp Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's about £150 per acre round here....if you can get any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotShot! Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 all depends. Probably anywhere from 100-400 quid. If it is grade 1 land that he could have a good crop of wheat from then it will be more. But if it is on corner that can square his field off for him and is bad land then it wont be a lot, all depends.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered_123 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 do keeping on a small shoot in north yorkshire , we pay £3 per acre to hold shooting rights and roughly about £200 per acre of arable land taken for game cover, but should always expect price to vary slightly depending on the site of the ground to be taken up. eg. on edge of wood where crop might not usually produce aswell could be cheaper thana plot on fertile south facing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted April 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Thanks chaps, I was surprised at some of the quotes but it all makes perfect sense when I think about it. After discussing it with the farm, they are willing to locate their own bird cover to suit us, and hopefully use a better suited seed. JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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