410 reloading

[brin]

hello has anyone got any 410 reloading equipment for sale evan hand reloading thanks

[Underdog]

All I have (somewhere) is some over shot cards for roll crimps.

 

Yer welcome to them if you want them.

 

U.

[deershooter]

Watch this space I will be making up kits for hand loading over the next few weeks

 

primer deprimer,roll turnover,powder and shot scoops

 

Deershooter

[00buck]

I have. A roll turnover tool wad punch cases and primers

And a cap and decap tool

[Guest cookoff013]

Watch this space I will be making up kits for hand loading over the next few weeks

 

primer deprimer,roll turnover,powder and shot scoops

 

Deershooter

 

You are a very smart man, i`ve been saying for weeks, that someone needs to sell kits with hulls primer wad powder etc. it takes the crazy questions away that are continually asked.

it just takes the questions of "what do i buy?"

 

the only dissadvantage thing is they wont be re-purchased by the same person after they have used up the components. thats the general consesnsus. but what it gives is knowledge, and an advanced learning scheme.

 

good luck !

[pestcontrol1]

Watch this space I will be making up kits for hand loading over the next few weeks

 

primer deprimer,roll turnover,powder and shot scoops

 

Deershooter

keep us posted il be interested

[Floating Chamber]

The only problem with RELOADING fired .410, especially fibre, is getting them to chamber!

[Underdog]

I had the same issues, it was as though a sizing die was needed for the reloaded round!

 

I wondered if the chambers were a bit on the large side and causing the cases to re-shape etc..

 

 

U.

[Andy H]

After reloading 410's I then put them through a sizing die so they chamber in my sxs which has the tightest chambers out of all of my 410's.

[Underdog]

Why it never dawned on to do the same!

 

lol.

 

Always something to learn!

 

U.

[Floating Chamber]

I can resize the head in a SuperSizer, however, it is further up the plastic where I encounter problems. The ribbed case wall seems to stretch, especially with fibre loads. A bit like crepe paper when it 'grows' after stretching and won't go back.

[Underdog]

I can resize the head in a SuperSizer, however, it is further up the plastic where I encounter problems. The ribbed case wall seems to stretch, especially with fibre loads. A bit like crepe paper when it 'grows' after stretching and won't go back.

yep, that was it for me too.

 

U.

[00buck]

I only reload 410 with cork wads they all work fine for me

But I only hand load them. 2 1/2 and 3 inch

[Andy H]

I hand load with cork wad's but especially with the latest batch of wad's from SIARM .435" od they are a bit on the large size and need the top half of the reloaded cartridge sizing.

[jonno]

it takes the crazy questions away that are continually asked.

Before I ask a crazy question, is there a 'Beginners Guide' to reloading 410's written anywhere I could read?

 

Thanks.

[saddler]

Before I ask a crazy question, is there a 'Beginners Guide' to reloading 410's written anywhere I could read?

 

Thanks.

 

Look at fourten.org.uk

 

LOTS of good info; it is a dedicated 410 website

[00buck]

To load a 410. Is no harder that a 12g if you use the right powder

Lots of powder you can use but check data

Lots of data on the net the rto is the way to go crimps are hard to do

If you use a press they may be ok but not not to hand load

[ChrisAsh]

The lanes reloader is aparently simular to the old lee handloader kit seen here http://lane371.dotster.com/

[00buck]

Hi the lanes kit is ok to cap and decap but no resize die

And you can't crimp or rto the case so it waste of time

[Dangerous Brian]

I didn't get on with the Lanes kit. I still use the de/re capper from it but bought a supersizer for the brass and a cheap bell thingy from Siarm for the plastic bit. I weigh each charge by hand on a balance as i haven't found a suitable scoop yet. For a decent RTO have a look at the Clay and Game ones. The one I got from them fits in a bench drill and does a lovely job. If you don't have access to a bench drill i think Siarm do some traditional RTO tools.

[00buck]

I use lee powder dippers for shot and powder

A hand rto tool I did use a hand decap and cap tool

But now I use a press that I did a mod to it

To cap and decap

[Floating Chamber]

I use lee powder dippers for shot and powder

A hand rto tool I did use a hand decap and cap tool

But now I use a press that I did a mod to it

To cap and decap

Same here. The MEC Case Conditioner is a good simple tool to convert to a .410 press. These come with a resizing die; I got mine from eBay before it went all Nanny-like. I had a spare .410 re-sizing die* to complete the job.

 

All you need are the basic deprime and reprime rods. You could make these easily.

 

 

Here, a new primer has been pushed home.

 

 

The powder is added by scoop and the wad is pushed home with the repriming tool.

 

The shot is scooped in and a top card added. The closure is effected by a turnover tool or a spinner in a bench drill.

 

*However, you can't beat a SuperSizer!

Edited May 9, 2013 by Floating Chamber

[00buck]

That's what I use MEC Case Conditioner

just the job

[Guest cookoff013]

Reloading for shotgun is easy, its just assembling components from set recipes that have been published and tested.

 

just order the stuff, and chuck it together in the right quantities and order.

 

the key to good reloads is a good recipe. this is a ballance between good components coupled with exellent pressure and relative payload.

the .410 is no more of a mystery to load than the 12, the only differences are, the .410 has limited powder choice for the set performance. even now newer .410 powders are coming on the market. the 12g powders list is huge anyway, there is no shortage of 12gauge powders.

 

the other differences are pressure requirement, some shotgun powders need a minimum of 5000psi to burn, thats just for something to leave tha barrel. where as .410 "normal" loads need one hell of a belt of pressure, maximums of 13000psi just to get 1200fps with 1/2oz of shot. the .410 pressure maximums represent this, the .410 ptmax is alot higher than the 12gauge.

 

the key to good shells is great recipes.

[HW682]

Reloading for shotgun is easy, its just assembling components from set recipes that have been published and tested.

 

just order the stuff, and chuck it together in the right quantities and order.

 

the key to good reloads is a good recipe. this is a ballance between good components coupled with exellent pressure and relative payload.

the .410 is no more of a mystery to load than the 12, the only differences are, the .410 has limited powder choice for the set performance. even now newer .410 powders are coming on the market. the 12g powders list is huge anyway, there is no shortage of 12gauge powders.

 

the other differences are pressure requirement, some shotgun powders need a minimum of 5000psi to burn, thats just for something to leave tha barrel. where as .410 "normal" loads need one hell of a belt of pressure, maximums of 13000psi just to get 1200fps with 1/2oz of shot. the .410 pressure maximums represent this, the .410 ptmax is alot higher than the 12gauge.

 

the key to good shells is great recipes.

 

Hi,

I know you said on an earlier post of mine that you don't have any experience of 410 subsonic loads, but I wondered if you could recommend any good sources. I have the clay and game Vectan SP3 datasheet but wondered if there are any others.

Thanks