hunterdave Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hi guys ive been shooting clays for quite a while now and want to move onto pigeons and corvids aswell whats the best way to get started , do i A - go out buy all the gear and see if i can get a perm or B - get a perm and then buy the gear or is there a C - second question - whats the minimum gear i need to buy to at lest have a shot at bagging some birds thanks for your help in advance dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Dave Find someone who will take you out, show you what's involved and then you can buy gear as you need it! Good luck T.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I often use just 12-20 shell or full body decoys and a glider/floater. Ther are ao many gadgets on the market these day..all 'must haves' that I manage good bags without A bit of scrum net and a few hide poles (equine electric fence stakes) also come in handy All the decoys and gadgets in the world won't give you a chance of a good bag if your in the qrong place. My advice is...learn how to do proper recon, learn about flightlines and habits (if youhavent already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Good advice guys I've been mainly watching YouTube vids , and reading the odd article in shooting sports mag, I'd love to go out and try it with someone local but it's finding someone , I've been asking around down the clay club but know ones into pigeons I'll just have to keep an eye out on here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Get yourself a copy of The Pigeon Shooter and have a read. Fantastic book and will get you on the right tracks for starting out. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1904057519 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Dave Find someone who will take you out, show you what's involved and then you can buy gear as you need it! Good luck T.C. +1 if you was closer you could of come out with me in the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 So Dave whereabouts are you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I take quite a few different people out with me but few month back I took a lad out and he started shooting at swallows and seagulls he was told to leave shortly after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Sorry guys ill sort my profile ASAP I'm in a hamlet called moira about 15 mins from burton upon trent and 20 mins from derby and 30 mins from Leicester , And I'm tempted by the pigeon mans offer , I can shoot mid week as I work 3 on 3 off perm days as an electrical engineer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I take quite a few different people out with me but few month back I took a lad out and he started shooting at swallows and seagulls he was told to leave shortly after It's a shame when one could ruin it for all , it only takes one **** hole and a gun to give everyone in the gun community a bad name, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I enjoy shareing hides gets boring on your own ha none of my mates shoot live quarry just clays so always asking people on here Out for a few hours but when you get the odd knob that shoots at out it winds me up shame your abit far away al be out for a few hours on wed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Dave if you can get across to me at PE8 6AB as soon as the harvest starts your welcome to come for a day. PM me if you want any more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Dave if you can get across to me at PE8 6AB as soon as the harvest starts your welcome to come for a day. PM me if you want any more details. Good offer is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Dave if you can get across to me at PE8 6AB as soon as the harvest starts your welcome to come for a day. PM me if you want any more details. Dave I'm also happy for you to come to me at harvest for a day too, I'm not far from you, 15 mins from kegworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Id like to thank all th guys that have offered to take me out shooting and show me the ropes ( and i dont mean in a bondage way ) ive been very inpressed with how freindlyand helpfull you all are to a new shooter, and hopefully one day when i get a perm and some time under my belt i will be able to repay the favore and take a new shooter out. Thank you all again for being so welcoming cheers dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 No Problem Dave, let's hope we see some birds on the 5th of August! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 No Problem Dave, let's hope we see some birds on the 5th of August! And a big thanks to tightchoke for answering all my silly questions and i look forward to seeing you on the 5th when hopefully ill pop my pigeon cherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpentermark Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Hi Dave,im probably going to get slated for saying this but i feel it might benefit? im sure you've thought about this already but if not, it might be worth taking some time to think about exactly what you're considering doing i.e killing an animal. they dont all die when shot (i wish they did) and you will need to come to terms with having to get proficient at killing them by hand. the reason i say this is not to be patronising or to put you off its just that i can remember the first time i went, and the chap i went with used the 'Batley' method which involves breaking the pigeons back with your thumb, ill be honest, i hated it! i also remember the first pigeon i had to kill by myself, again, not nice. it is something you get used to but for someone who is not that way inclined i'm sure it wouldnt be a good idea. Hope you enjoy the sport and always have respect for your quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi Dave,im probably going to get slated for saying this but i feel it might benefit? im sure you've thought about this already but if not, it might be worth taking some time to think about exactly what you're considering doing i.e killing an animal. they dont all die when shot (i wish they did) and you will need to come to terms with having to get proficient at killing them by hand. the reason i say this is not to be patronising or to put you off its just that i can remember the first time i went, and the chap i went with used the 'Batley' method which involves breaking the pigeons back with your thumb, ill be honest, i hated it! i also remember the first pigeon i had to kill by myself, again, not nice. it is something you get used to but for someone who is not that way inclined i'm sure it wouldnt be a good idea. Hope you enjoy the sport and always have respect for your quarry. Its a good point, but i am sure that going out with a long term shooter like Tightchoke he will be shown a good method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdave Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 HI guys just a responce to the last two post above ^^^^^ Let me tell you a little about myself , Im an electrical engineer, a glorified maintenace engineer responding to machine breakdowns and ppm and genraly keeping a manufacturing facilaty running, ive been working in the food industry for the past 10 years. ive worked in abattoirs ( and ive seen some sights and smells ) ive worked in a chicken prossesing plant ( and have come to blows with a guy misstreating animals, if you saw how they are procesed you would think twice about eating suppermarket chicken, ) yes all these animals are suposedly killed humainly. If i were an animal ( and i am in the bedroom Ask your wife ) i would rather roam free and forrage and have a sporting chance against a guy with a shotgun than spend my missrable life eating food witch is designed to get a chicken to slaughter weight in 16 weeks gaining weight so fast that it breaks and deforms your hips only to grabbed by some imergrant worker litraly throwing you in a small crate with 20 other half feathered chickens and end up at a processing plant to be electrified in a pool of water and have your head cut off at the same time and this is the nice version. I have the upmost respect for all animals and have a great love of nature and the outdoors, i hope to kill my quarry cleanly but in some cercumstances i may not and i am prepaired to despatch my quary as cleanly as possible, i do intend to try and eat some of my quarry, i have allso sent an email to twycross zoo as they are local to me to see if they would be intrested in any of my left over quarry. At the end of the day these animals are pests and the reason they are able to be shot in such numbers is that we are now growing more crops than ever. More food = more animals is the long and short of it Im also going to be shown the ropes by a long time shooter, im not just going to rock up in a feild and start blatting anything that moves i have taken the time to seek some training in this art. id like to end this with a few of my favorate quotes The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.Winston Churchill All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.Winston Churchill and my alltime favorate and most relevant If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Let's go kill some pigeons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Let's go kill some pigeons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Let's go kill some pigeons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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