VW reliability

[Blackpowder]

My daughter and her partner had a horrendous experience when driving on a motorway heading north to the Borders. For the second time in 1000 miles on this 4 year old car with only 14,000 on the clock the engine lost power leaving them virtually idling in the middle lane. This had occured on a previous occasion when the problem was faulty injector cylinders, see above replaced within the last 1000 miles. However 8 hours and five relay changes found them in the Borders at 10pm last night. This morning VW UK seem only interested in passing the buck and accepting zero responsibility, so much for the so called VW reliability and customer service. Reading some VW forums there appears to be an issue with VW injectors, any forum members have experience of this.

 

Blackpowder

[RAMMER BURT]

ooooooooooo yes but only on common rail vw's my old mk3 golf never let me down in 16 years of owner ship had it from new

[shaun4860]

My Seat Altea 56 reg (vw engine) had a recall last year along with Audi's/vw's/Skoda's to replace all the injectors

 

Check if their's qualified or was done

 

Edited September 16, 2013 by shaun4860

[RAMMER BURT]

recall from vw was to fit bosch injectors instead of siemens if the car is out warranty it's over a grand to do all four thats why so many a cars are broken for parts

[aris]

My daughter and her partner had a horrendous experience when driving on a motorway heading north to the Borders. For the second time in 1000 miles on this 4 year old car with only 14,000 on the clock the engine lost power leaving them virtually idling in the middle lane. This had occured on a previous occasion when the problem was faulty injector cylinders, see above replaced within the last 1000 miles. However 8 hours and five relay changes found them in the Borders at 10pm last night. This morning VW UK seem only interested in passing the buck and accepting zero responsibility, so much for the so called VW reliability and customer service. Reading some VW forums there appears to be an issue with VW injectors, any forum members have experience of this.

 

Blackpowder

 

Which car is it? Petrol or diesel?

 

ooooooooooo yes but only on common rail vw's my old mk3 golf never let me down in 16 years of owner ship had it from new

 

Same here - had my Mk3 GTi for 16 years. Would have kept it, but needed more money to keep it on the road than it was worth (new clutch, exhaust, radiator, other stuff).

[Paul223]

what most people fail to realise is that vw don't make the injectors, or any other electrical parts, bosch do, bosch also make them for most other European manufactures, so reliability wise there all very similar

[RAMMER BURT]

what most people fail to realise is that vw don't make the injectors, or any other electrical parts, bosch do, bosch also make them for most other European manufactures, so reliability wise there all very similar

 

this is true of every thing made the issue with vw was the fact that they fitted siemens parts witch were known to fail, most do 75k then fail if this is within warenty they were fitted with bosch parts free of charge if not its a grand

[Blackpowder]

Hi Aris its diesel

 

Blackpowder

[sle]

VW are one of the most unreliable vehicles available. They have the worst customer after care of any make. I don't understand why people have these illusions of vw being reliable.

[RAMMER BURT]

VW are one of the most unreliable vehicles available. They have the worst customer after care of any make. I don't understand why people have these illusions of vw being reliable.

it all stems from the beetle being an icon, they were reliable and parts were cheap

[Asa Bear]

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Edited September 16, 2013 by Logo

[Asa Bear]

 

this is true of every thing made the issue with vw was the fact that they fitted siemens parts witch were known to fail, most do 75k then fail if this is within warenty they were fitted with bosch parts free of charge if not its a grand

 

More than a grand mate. My Audi was recalled for injector replacement last year. Dealer told me there's 6 @£600 each! Glad it was on a recall. It's a lovely car to drive but I've had loads go wrong with it. Poor! 💩

[RAMMER BURT]

More than a grand mate. My Audi was recalled for injector replacement last year. Dealer told me there's 6 @£600 each! Glad it was on a recall. It's a lovely car to drive but I've had loads go wrong with it. Poor!

all vw 1.9-20 tdi's are 4 cyl @250 each fitted so round the grand mark yours in v6 different beast

[Livefast123]

VW are one of the most unreliable vehicles available.

 

That's a bit of a generalisation.......... injector faults are common across most mainstream diesels due to the reduced lubricity diesel being produced these days and the incredibly high tolerances the injectors have to work within. I have to agree that for an allegedly premium brand, the customer service is pants.

 

I would not touch a modern diesel with a barge pole, i'll take the 30 - 40 MPG and the cheaper cost per litre that petrol gives anyday. I've owned a number of petrol VW's and tend to run them from showroom to scrapheap. My current Mk4 Golf GTi has covered 200,000 and the Mrs 1.0 Polo had covered 165,000 before we sold it. Both were on original clutch (admittedly worn) but had no major issues and drive like new.

[Rupert]

 

That's a bit of a generalisation.......... injector faults are common across most mainstream diesels due to the reduced lubricity diesel being produced these days and the incredibly high tolerances the injectors have to work within. I have to agree that for an allegedly premium brand, the customer service is pants.

 

I would not touch a modern diesel with a barge pole, i'll take the 30 - 40 MPG and the cheaper cost per litre that petrol gives anyday. I've owned a number of petrol VW's and tend to run them from showroom to scrapheap. My current Mk4 Golf GTi has covered 200,000 and the Mrs 1.0 Polo had covered 165,000 before we sold it. Both were on original clutch (admittedly worn) but had no major issues and drive like new.

The petrol argument is gaining weight with me too.i just like the way the power is delivered with a diesel.

[aris]

The petrol argument is gaining weight with me too.i just like the way the power is delivered with a diesel.

 

You like turbo-lag?

[Rupert]

 

You like turbo-lag?

All or nothing,true of so many things I do.

[twitchynik]

 

You like turbo-lag?

Huh? Have you driven a modern bi-turbo diesel? Next to no lag in mine.

 

In fact, it's not just Diesel engines that are doing this now, look at the turbo and supercharged VAG engines. Power and economy but not a diesel.

 

And let's not forget that turbo lag isn't just limited to Diesel engines.

 

Simple fact that a diesel power delivery is different to petrol and some prefer it to petrol. Turbo lag is irrelevant to that point.

[Rupert]

No lag in my 330d either.

[TaxiDriver]

Voltswagen told me that the reason my Transporter T5 (Commercial Vehicle) was falling apart and failing so miserably was because.

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Because I was using it Commercially

 

I havent (yet) had injector problems, but thats about the only mechanical part yet to be changed.

[Asa Bear]

all vw 1.9-20 tdi's are 4 cyl @250 each fitted so round the grand mark yours in v6 different beast

Mine is the 2.0 TDi 170bhp

 

You're right, only 4 but was told they'd be £600 each. Mind you that was main dealer in Coventry. Rob dogs!

Edited September 16, 2013 by Logo

[Livefast123]

Maybe get the Bosch part number and try a local specialist, although no doubt they will need coding to the car

Edited September 16, 2013 by Livefast123

[tweedledee]

I have been a vw nut since I was 17,other than a collapsed front wheel bearing(my neglect), with regular servicing I never have had to put a spanner to any of my cars. running a mk5 gti at present and love it......I look after my vehicles and don`t abuse them and would be hard pushed to buy anything other than a vw next time round

[aris]

Huh? Have you driven a modern bi-turbo diesel? Next to no lag in mine.

 

In fact, it's not just Diesel engines that are doing this now, look at the turbo and supercharged VAG engines. Power and economy but not a diesel.

 

And let's not forget that turbo lag isn't just limited to Diesel engines.

 

Simple fact that a diesel power delivery is different to petrol and some prefer it to petrol. Turbo lag is irrelevant to that point.

 

Yes I drive a turbo diesel now (not sure if it is a twin turbo) and I do get a half a second or so of lag. Nothing spectacular, but noticeable. It's certainly different to petrol. I don't dislike it - but it is different kind of drive.

Edited September 17, 2013 by aris

[Blackpowder]

 

More than a grand mate. My Audi was recalled for injector replacement last year. Dealer told me there's 6 @£600 each! Glad it was on a recall. It's a lovely car to drive but I've had loads go wrong with it. Poor!

How can anyone justify this price? I know an injector is a very precision part but £600!

 

Thanks for all the comments and we are still getting nowhere other than some nerd pressing a keyboard and saying replacement is not allowed FOC.

 

Blackpowder