jasper3 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 As I wrote in an earlier post - what recession? My business grows in good times and bad, and I am retailing more now than I have ever done. But (of course) all I get is derision from the clique on here As I wrote in an earlier post - what recession? My business grows in good times and bad, and I am retailing more now than I have ever done. But (of course) all I get is derision from the clique on here well done mate, its great to hear, and long may it last.. i have noticed some things have really picked up and some have not been affected at all , the owners of the care home mum is in is now driving around in a nice new BMW if you have work, then be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 They buy votes by giving away 'free' stuff. Which is paid for by the ever decreasing numbers of hard pressed tax payers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Which is paid for by the ever decreasing numbers of hard pressed tax payers! Indeed and by dragging more and more people into the higher rate tax band through fiscal drag. I love how Labour says they will pay for all their giveaways by 'taxing the banks'. Who are they going to tax when the banks buggar off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Indeed and by dragging more and more people into the higher rate tax band through fiscal drag. I love how Labour says they will pay for all their giveaways by 'taxing the banks'. Who are they going to tax when the banks buggar off. Just listening to Megabland at the conference on the news, God help us if those idiots get back in at the next election. Promising to hold energy prices until 2017 now, who the hell do they think will ever be sucked in by them again this decade? It is always so easy to promise the earth then deliver nothing! Edited September 24, 2013 by old rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just listening to Megabland at the conference on the news, God help us if those idiots get back in at the next election. Promising to hold energy prices until 2017 now, who the hell do they think will ever be sucked in by them again this decade? It is always so easy to promise the earth then deliver a ****! They will get in for sure. They made sure last time around to make as many people dependent on the state as possible. Tories had to take all the unpopular decisions to fix the economic mess - unpopular as you may expect - so who can blame people for voting for labour again. It could be worse though - labour/libdem coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 They will get in for sure. They made sure last time around to make as many people dependent on the state as possible. Tories had to take all the unpopular decisions to fix the economic mess - unpopular as you may expect - so who can blame people for voting for labour again. It could be worse though - labour/libdem coalition. If that happens I guess a few of us will be looking to redress the immigration problem the country is experiencing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 They will get in for sure. They made sure last time around to make as many people dependent on the state as possible. Tories had to take all the unpopular decisions to fix the economic mess - unpopular as you may expect - so who can blame people for voting for labour again. It could be worse though - labour/libdem coalition. Yeah the torries took all the unpopular decisions and built a campaign on it. As far as I can tell they have fixed **** all mind. On the contrary we seem to be slipping deeper into the ****. So what we got, a tiny army and a private Royal Mail en route despite it making a profit lol. Trying to think of some good struggling, help me out here. We're deeper in debt immigration is just as bad and about to get worse and the NHS and hospitals are in dire straights. I'm glad some folks are doing well through all this. Fair play to em! Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yeah the torries took all the unpopular decisions and built a campaign on it. As far as I can tell they have fixed **** all mind. On the contrary we seem to be slipping deeper into the ****. So what we got, a tiny army and a private Royal Mail en route despite it making a profit lol. Trying to think of some good struggling, help me out here. We're deeper in debt immigration is just as bad and about to get worse and the NHS and hospitals are in dire straights. I'm glad some folks are doing well through all this. Fair play to em! Karpman You've got to ask where we would have been if the country had been left in the hands of liebore at the last election though. The coalition had one hell of a hole to try and dig back out of without much in the way of a spade. The debts the last lot ran up were criminal really, if we were being told now that everything was looking rosy again I'd be very suspicious of that! Listening to the list of things that Cleggy reckons he stopped the conservatives from doing by being in coalition it isn't hard to see why we haven't made more progress!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The decisions made today will take years to be felt. If you are worred about immigration, vote UKIP. Nothing can be done about it while we're in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The decisions made today will take years to be felt. If you are worred about immigration, vote UKIP. Nothing can be done about it while we're in the EU.I fully intend to mate. I don't believe cleggy anymore than I believe Cameron. He is just trying to justify his position. I doubt he could stop Cameron doing much in the long run. I thought Cameron had I a backbone I was wrong lol. As for the housing market recovery. All I see round these parts is people being spoon fed into over priced new builds. All manner of loans and swaps and part exchanges getting peeps in these new estates nowdays. A work friend went for a new build, natwest valued it at 115 thou they wanted 155 leaving him a 10 grand shortfall after they had bought his house from him. No worries they sorted some finance from somewhere or another and in he went. Nothing like a bit of negative equity. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 While I agree with what UKIP stand for, I'm concerned that a vote for UKIP is a vote or labour by way of splitting the conservative vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil82 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 no recession has ever had any effect on me, allways skint at the end of every month, no way will my annual income allow me to get a mortgage on any thing bigger than a chicken coop on a hanky and that's with being in a skilled trade, despite that I have no real worries, bills are paid, truck kept on the road and have the fuel to go out hunting when I want to, biggest losers/whingers are those who earned their mega bucks from the reality money market, and the more of those tossers who go down the better, the stocks and shares market has no actual value beyond whats imagined, maybe that's why some pensions have to be invested into this mickey mouse market to perpetuate it, myself, I`m going to drink, smoke and be merry for whatever years I`ve got left, for actual working people the biggest insult is how much tax big companies pay, no matter where they are based, if they make money here they should pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Vote Ukip in the Euro's to send the message, vote Conservative in the GE to keep Labour at bay. While I agree with what UKIP stand for, I'm concerned that a vote for UKIP is a vote or labour by way of splitting the conservative vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Latest YouGov poll says: Con - 34% Lab - 39% Lib - 10% Other - 17% The 17% the 'other' it conists of 10% UKIP, the rest Green/SNP So basically UKIP are eating the conservatives lunch. The disapproval rating of the current government is over 50% too. Data is here if anyone is interested: http://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/politics/ Edited September 25, 2013 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 The general populace have short memories and are conditioned to 'more for me' sound bites. Unfortunately, the Conservatives were always going to get stick for trying to clean up Labours mess. Latest YouGov poll says: Con - 34% Lab - 39% Lib - 10% Other - 17% The 17% the 'other' it conists of 10% UKIP, the rest Green/SNP So basically UKIP are eating the conservatives lunch. The disapproval rating of the current government is over 50% too. Data is here if anyone is interested: http://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/politics/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Never voted anyone, and i never done better... which recession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted September 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 The recession should be a lesson to all. Pay off your debts as fast as possible, save for a rainy day, and live within your means. If UK plc did that when labour were running the show, we woud never have had a recession. Absolutely 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Vote Ukip in the Euro's to send the message, vote Conservative in the GE to keep Labour at bay. There is no difference worth discussing between voting Conservative and voting Labour. We will get the same policies either way. The present Government is as addicted to spending and the expansion of government and the surrender of sovereignty as were their Labour predecessors. Osborne has increased spending exponentially. National debt is as high if not higher than had been predicted had Gordon Brown's regime remained in control. Where a sticking plaster has been placed over one tiny area of goverenment waste, ministers gleefully open another haemorrhage elsewhere. I'm not sure I wouldn't preferr a Labour government to get back in and complete their work of destruction. It may be the only way a self-centred and increasingly stupid population will come to understand what is being done to their country. For decades Britain has been in the position of a person painting a rotten window frame. Whether lacking in foresight, inept or just too plain lazy to do the job properly, cut out the rot and make the necessary structural repairs, he paints over the decay time after time. It looks great for a very short time before the disease beneath surfaces again and destroys his work. Eventually the entire structure collapses. We're still daubing cheap gloss over a rotten framework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 We have been hit hard in n Ireland too.i had to leave a job i loved due to lack of income.hardest decision i ever had to make.money is just starting to surplus again after almost a year with little to spare.just glad i was able to get a job as others have nt that luxury.the UK government is flawed from the inside.too many handouts to folk who don't deserve them .Europe is pulling the strings.British jobs for British people.we need to get back to manufacturing to make Britain great again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Gimlet, I pretty much agree with your posts on the subject, but simply do not want to see that shower Labour in power. As it stands, I see Ukip's role as a leverage tool to use against the Tories to change. There is no difference worth discussing between voting Conservative and voting Labour. We will get the same policies either way. The present Government is as addicted to spending and the expansion of government and the surrender of sovereignty as were their Labour predecessors. Osborne has increased spending exponentially. National debt is as high if not higher than had been predicted had Gordon Brown's regime remained in control. Where a sticking plaster has been placed over one tiny area of goverenment waste, ministers gleefully open another haemorrhage elsewhere. I'm not sure I wouldn't preferr a Labour government to get back in and complete their work of destruction. It may be the only way a self-centred and increasingly stupid population will come to understand what is being done to their country. For decades Britain has been in the position of a person painting a rotten window frame. Whether lacking in foresight, inept or just too plain lazy to do the job properly, cut out the rot and make the necessary structural repairs, he paints over the decay time after time. It looks great for a very short time before the disease beneath surfaces again and destroys his work. Eventually the entire structure collapses. We're still daubing cheap gloss over a rotten framework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Gimlet, I pretty much agree with your posts on the subject, but simply do not want to see that shower Labour in power. As it stands, I see Ukip's role as a leverage tool to use against the Tories to change. Oh I don't want a Labour government either. And I'd like to rip socialism's corrosive tentacles out of every corner of public life where they have inserted themselves into the BBC, charities, the education system, the police force, health provision and every square inch of the public sector. The Left has appointed itself supreme moral arbiter on all matters of human existence from cradle to grave. It has invaded the lives of private individuals, even entering their bedrooms and seeking to dictate the terms of their religous beliefs. The Tories have supinely accepted the fraudulent discourse of the Left. They talk in the same intellectually retarded jargon. They have become Blairites in ill-fitting Conservative clothes. I know UKIP cannot form a government. I support them in the belief that they will force the position on Europe adopted by the other parties to become untenable but I don't believe there will ever be a genuine and final referendum on the UK's withdrawal from the EU while the Tories are controlled by Blairites. The Tory stable needs cleansing. If that lets Labour in, so be it. At present we have two Labour parties, which is precisely two more than is good for us. We don't have a genuine Conservative party. We will not get a genuine referendum. Without that referendum we have no chance of escaping the EU and no chance of returning Westminster to the sovereign parliament it needs to be to function from the sixth form debating society it is now. The material difference between a Labour and Conservative Government, therefore, as that party is presently constituted, will be so small as to be unquantifiable. Cameron is fully committed to the unending expansion of government and the continued dissolution of the UK as a sovereign nation. You can't influence that. Edited September 25, 2013 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Skint as always..... Hours got cut on the door and wages down so one reason among Many to quit... Day job OK but sub contracted so could go anytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 no recession has ever had any effect on me, allways skint at the end of every month, no way will my annual income allow me to get a mortgage on any thing bigger than a chicken coop on a hanky and that's with being in a skilled trade, despite that I have no real worries, bills are paid, truck kept on the road and have the fuel to go out hunting when I want to, biggest losers/whingers are those who earned their mega bucks from the reality money market, and the more of those tossers who go down the better, the stocks and shares market has no actual value beyond whats imagined, maybe that's why some pensions have to be invested into this mickey mouse market to perpetuate it, myself, I`m going to drink, smoke and be merry for whatever years I`ve got left, for actual working people the biggest insult is how much tax big companies pay, no matter where they are based, if they make money here they should pay Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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