gosbod Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Any body using any other ammo other than 17grn ie any of the 20 grn cci ammo wondered if it copes with wind drift any betta than 17 grn at 150 yrds as been throwing the idea of getting a hmr again for corvid controll had one years ago seem to rememba wind blew it about a bit past 120 yards have considered other calibers of rifle se recent posts by myself but everbody says hmr is the tool for the job na been shooting em wi a .22 rimmy not got the range though ok up to 75 yrd an also usin my 22.250 which does the job no probs out to vast ranges but a dear do ammo wise and a bit too noisy in the daytime even wi mod on dont reload any more either your veiws on the above are welcomed also what are the cz 455s like in .17 hmr as my last hmr was a ruger 77 years ago thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) .. Edited December 26, 2013 by Graham M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Only use the .17 grain. If bothered about factory ammo costs in .22-250 then I'd say the .17 is your best shout. Even factory hornet stuff from what I've seen isn't much cheaper than the other .22cf bullets. If it's flat calm use the .17 and windy the .250? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosbod Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Cheers wild iv had a hornett in the past cracking little cf but in order to get acurate rounds u definatly have to reload an ammo ime using in 250 is 31 quid fa twenty50grn sako arrow head wi nos bal tip superb ammo an hits the spot every time but too dear fa crows on a regular basis cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I'm not that easy with the HMR out around 150 yards, yes, for sure, it is capable, and more, but if I was looking for a rifle to perform at that distance on a daily basis I would look elseware. Until/if we get the 17WSM the alternatives may be a chunk more expensive. 17g V-Max is what works in the HMR, other ammo is out there but very limited use. Edited December 26, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Didn't know they even made .17 hmr 77 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 cz 455 are great rifles and as accurate as any anschutz i have owned.the difference between the 17 grn and 20 grn in hmr wont be noticable in my opinion.sounds like you might do well with the new cz .17 hornet and a set of dies or its best part of a quid a shot.i did not rate the savage .17 hornet but others might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The primary reason I looked for something other than HMR was for crow control, I found the HMR to have very unpredictable terminals on these tough birds. Got clean body hits were the birds got back up a flew up to 1/2 mile before dropping out the sky (I know this coz one or two landed in my neighbours yard) . Bullets often broke up on hitting the primarys in the wing leaving but a feather free patch under the wing and knocking the wind out of them yet not even penetrating the skin (second shots backed this up) I found this as unbelievable as the reader might as did a local keeper, right until it started to occur to him also. I think in all fairness a small centre fire is a far superior Crow gun. you need not get anything more than a .222 and Hornet or fireball will moderate better than HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Find the above quote interesting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I only use .17 gr V-Max bullets in my CZ 455.I tend to stick to 100 yard range shots tbh. The CZ455 is a lovely rifle and extremely popular too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Shot plenty of crows with 17grain v-max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmiddy Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 bicykillgaz your quote Didn't know they even made .17 hmr 77 years ago! This refers to the ruger model 77 in hmr ..............................(used years ago) .......... ThIs is how it should have read lol paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 bicykillgaz your quote Didn't know they even made .17 hmr 77 years ago! This refers to the ruger model 77 in hmr ..............................(used years ago) .......... ThIs is how it should have read lol paul I know mate it was a very vague attempt at humour but obviously only my strange little mind got it. It just read funny so thought I'd comment. Cheers though mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 i have both 17grain and 20grain hmr rounds and don't think you will find much difference between the 2, if it's windy then my .222 is the go to gun and i reload at about 36p per round using basic reloading gear that cost me about £50-60 of pw members a lot of people don't like the idea of reloading but on cold wet windy nights when i don't want to be out shooting and don't want to be getting nagged its quite nice to shut myself away and reload some rounds colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorvale55 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Tried the 20grn in the CZ 452 .17hmr rifle, not very happy with them. The 17grn, (blue or red tipped, they are all the same), are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 i have both 17grain and 20grain hmr rounds and don't think you will find much difference between the 2, if it's windy then my .222 is the go to gun and i reload at about 36p per round using basic reloading gear that cost me about £50-60 of pw members a lot of people don't like the idea of reloading but on cold wet windy nights when i don't want to be out shooting and don't want to be getting nagged its quite nice to shut myself away and reload some rounds colin Lets be honest a small centre fire is one heck of a more effective crow killer even on a still day, a .222 should effectively double your range to boot. I have never bagged that many with a rifle in one day that price mattered much at all and doubt seriously if anyone ever has, its more a case of how many you get a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Very true i have had more the 12g in one day than with the rifle in a year i was more pointing out that not all cf are £1 a shot mine also is a rabbit gun when its windy, now i know how to reload i have toyed with the idea of changing my hmr for a 22 hornet but that's another subject colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Very true i have had more the 12g in one day than with the rifle in a year i was more pointing out that not all cf are £1 a shot mine also is a rabbit gun when its windy, now i know how to reload i have toyed with the idea of changing my hmr for a 22 hornet but that's another subject colin You can make decent reduced power loads for the .222 rem that go below the hornet, there hence is little real requirement for another rig- you could even utilise the hornet bullets at hornet speeds and no real reason why they should not shoot every bit as good. The hornet only has the edge on case capacity for velocity and the IMO unrequired facility to go lower still to match .22 wmr or even less! Edited December 28, 2013 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Kent will pm you when i get home and on computer if that's ok Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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