paul2012 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Some of you may remember a thread recently about this, I got my fav ticket and it says as a condition that i need to notify if i buy/sell/aquire firearms, moderators and ammunition. I had no problems with this and sent the local force an email in line with the letter they sent me, Got a phone call yesterday from firearms licencing saying that I don't need to inform them when i buy ammo as they can barely cope with just firearms purchase transfers etc. They also said that they cant change the condition as it comes printed on the new certificates as its now part of the home office guidelines or something to that effect. So now im lost as to what to do, because if i do what they say and don't inform them im in breach of my conditions. And if i do then i could be seen to be ignoring what they are telling me to do. I don't think im the only one in this situation as the condition is standard on all new certifcates in the area but what should i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Send an email when you purchase ammo. If they complain, ask for a letter to be sent out telling you what they want. Keep it with your fac and if your ever asked your covered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 If you have that in writing your covered! Never heard of this one before, everyone just gets it written on their cert at time of purchase RFDs have perfected very small and totally illegible writing as a result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 This came to light a few weeks back in a thread that largely featured J and the BASC. Forget ammo notification, if in doubt I suspect someone can find the thread, or talk to the BASC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Indeed BASC were seeking formal clarification iirc ie an amendment to the guidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 not got it in writing, but i will get it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 surley you dont have to inform them if you buy ammo, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 According to my ticket you do! And when i saw johnathonLs thread the other day i thougt that it was the norm now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yep it's on my licence aswell just checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 What a load of nonsense - I agree with everyone - get it in writing and ignore it. BASC should have an answer by now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) I will look into it on Monday David PS if you could point me in the direction of the original thread that would be kind Edited January 4, 2014 by David BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 David, you answered this back on Dec 16th, http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/268833-ammunition-transfers-now-to-be-notified-to-police/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Indeed, and my posts still stand (just double checking if there had been another thread I had missed , so thank you very much for your help) Waiting for the HO to correct , any member who has a problem with this let me know... David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 David, Having read the previous post I still wonder about how long its taking. Renewals occur regularly and there must be hundreds going through on a daily basis countrywide. So simply pointing out to the HO and it taking so long, affects thousands. Surely the HO can act more quickly and may do so if all those affected ask for clarification on a standard form supplied by their shooting organisation and designed to 'legalise' their purchases of ammo by a response confirming the mistake, and advising that notification is not necessary. Its a mistake - how long does it take to correct - months ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Indeed, and my posts still stand (just double checking if there had been another thread I had missed , so thank you very much for your help) Waiting for the HO to correct , any member who has a problem with this let me know... David David...we move on, this is a typical example of your worth to PW and I'm sure is appreciated by all, including many who are not members. Correct me if I'm wrong here, if this is printed "advice" there will be large stocks, much already sent out to FAC holders (possibly to remain with them for 5 years), how on earth can this be resolved in the short term in anything like a sensible and cost effective way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Lancs used to have an odd person they told to record were each shot was fired when etc. It was rare and I am going back maybe 15 yrs or so. I saw people actually doing this, don't know what someone was thinking at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I will get an update on this when I am back at work on Monday, its very frustrating that this mess up has caused so much confusion etc at licencing level and that although the error was picked up by us almost immediately, it seems to be taking an age for the HO etc to correct it!! Dekers - regardless of disagreements we may have on some issues I am sure we are and can remain friends in shooting.The point about pre printed advice is a very good one and thank you for bringing this up. David Edited January 5, 2014 by David BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I will get an update on this when I am back at work on Monday, its very frustrating that this mess up has caused so much confusion etc at licencing level and that although the error was picked up by us almost immediately, it seems to be taking an age for the HO etc to correct it!! Dekers - regardless of disagreements we may have on some issues I am sure we are and can remain friends in shooting.The point about pre printed advice is a very good one and thank you for bringing this up. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If any member has this silly condition on their certificate please get in touch with us ASAP, and please send a copy of that part of your cert. We need to know, and have evidence of which constabularies are doing this and compounding the error. We can then take this up with them, the Home Office and possibly the Minister too... David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm not a member David but if you want a copy of the condition id be happy to send you a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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