shakin stevens Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Clay and game is about your best bet mat , they have the old remi cases in stock, they are olive in colour, and £10 cheaper, shame nobody sells once fired cases like they did do, they crimp up nice, have you got a gun yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 They've got those cheddites at £39/100 but none of their data uses them! No gun yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Most of the steel loads I use are from the RSI steel handbook. My favoured load at the moment is this - Federal case, Win 209 primer, 47gn Alliant steel, sam1 wad and 42 grams of steel. The speed is supposedly 1550 fps. A good hevishot load (I've used heavyweight 13, 3.8mm) - Federal case, Fed 209 primer, 41gn steel powder, TPS1035 wad, filler wads, mylar wrap, 20gn #47 buffer, overshot card and not forgetting 1 3/4 oz hevishot. 1355 fps. Thanks for info Motty. Assume you are crimping yours. I'm currently doing RTO but will be getting a MEC soon. Maybe that will up my percentages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Thanks for info Motty. Assume you are crimping yours. I'm currently doing RTO but will be getting a MEC soon. Maybe that will up my percentagesThat 381 recipe , I tried it like you , but in my browning gold it was way over the top! I knocked it down to 40 grains and put it over the chrono and it was round 1500 ftps, and it patterned well, that was crimped and finished with a gaep roll turner. That was in a terror 720 choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 That 381 recipe , I tried it like you , but in my browning gold it was way over the top! I knocked it down to 40 grains and put it over the chrono and it was round 1500 ftps, and it patterned well, that was crimped and finished with a gaep roll turner. That was in a terror 720 choke. I kept the 44gr but reduced the shot load to 43gms so although recoil was reduced I may have pushed the velocity up even further. Maybe I'm blowing patterns apart and that may explain some of the difference between mine and Motty's loads. Looking forward to getting my MEC and adjusting these loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I kept the 44gr but reduced the shot load to 43gms so although recoil was reduced I may have pushed the velocity up even further. Maybe I'm blowing patterns apart and that may explain some of the difference between mine and Motty's loads. Looking forward to getting my MEC and adjusting these loads.I kept the shot weight to 46grams, no fillers or packers, really easy to load, bet you are blowing the pattern with that amount of 381. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Is there anyone else who sells cases for 10s other than claygame? If there isnt i'll pick up some cases when i go up there in a couple of weeks I will more than likely order some more stuff from the US in the summer, so if you can wait, I could get you some once fired shells with my order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I will more than likely order some more stuff from the US in the summer, so if you can wait, I could get you some once fired shells with my order. I'm in no hurry, just though i could get some while i'm up there to save the postage because i'm a tight ***! I'll give you a call when i remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gun is sorted, gunmark kestrel. choke full and full but will be opened up. Anyone done any loading of 2 7/8" in lead or non toxic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gun is sorted, gunmark kestrel. choke full and full but will be opened up. Anyone done any loading of 2 7/8" in lead or non toxic? Hi mat, I've got an old alan myers book with plenty of 10g recipes in lead, I'm sure theres some for the 2 7/8 case, isnt the kestrel chambered for 3" cases?...anyway I'll dig it out and have a look for you. atb...Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Thanks Dale, i fancy loading a few lighter lead loads to get some practice on the pigeons with it. It is chambered 3 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Thanks Dale, i fancy loading a few lighter lead loads to get some practice on the pigeons with it. It is chambered 3 1/2. It will certainly still kill them loaded full length LOL and it will save the cases from being shortened. Other than that look for a ten to twelve reducer and use std pigeon shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 It will certainly still kill them loaded full length LOL and it will save the cases from being shortened. Other than that look for a ten to twelve reducer and use std pigeon shells Don't you think it might be a little overkill though! I've got data here for 2 7/8" lead from 1 ounce upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Don't you think it might be a little overkill though! I've got data here for 2 7/8" lead from 1 ounce upwards I have data for light lead loads and use cut down used remington cases, a good source is Alliant powder website, also notice C&G have new 10g cases at 27/8 and fibre wads, (a bit cheaper than 31/2). i use RTO closure. I think the 10g is interesting as you can load weights from 30-60+gm loads You can also load steel in the cut down cases Edited February 8, 2014 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Gun is sorted, gunmark kestrel. choke full and full but will be opened up. Anyone done any loading of 2 7/8" in lead or non toxic? How much did you get it for, Mat? What choking are you thinking of ending up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 How much did you get it for, Mat? What choking are you thinking of ending up with? £250 for the gun, costing me £15 at each end to get it shipped to me as its in glasgow. Not decided on choke yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 leave as is for soft non toxic and no more than 1/2 if it is for steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Hi Sorry to ask but by soft non toxic I assume you mean bismuth are there any other non toxic suitable for more than half choke ? Many thanks All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Hi Sorry to ask but by soft non toxic I assume you mean bismuth are there any other non toxic suitable for more than half choke ? Many thanks All the best Of Itm, itx and nice shot are all suitable I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Thanks Dale, i fancy loading a few lighter lead loads to get some practice on the pigeons with it. It is chambered 3 1/2. Hi mat, just had a look through the old myers catalogue, there are 45 recipes for 10g, starting from the 2 5/8ths case with 1 3/8ths oz load up to the 3 1/2 case with 2 1/2 oz...obviousley all the different powders and primers, wads etc....I'll be down the caravan at the end of the week, so I'll get them photocopied for you and you can either collect them or, if you send your address to my phone I'll post them to you, whichever is easiest for you. atb...Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi mat, just had a look through the old myers catalogue, there are 45 recipes for 10g, starting from the 2 5/8ths case with 1 3/8ths oz load up to the 3 1/2 case with 2 1/2 oz...obviousley all the different powders and primers, wads etc....I'll be down the caravan at the end of the week, so I'll get them photocopied for you and you can either collect them or, if you send your address to my phone I'll post them to you, whichever is easiest for you. atb...Dale. Thanks Dale, i'll pop down the caravan when you are down. Will drop you a text at the end of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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