scobydog Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Just read in the times that Cameron has stepped in to stop price rises for certificates, the lacs people are a bit upset about it, sorry no attachment i'm no good with computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/article1373458.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Anyone know of this trial in 5 regions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Crumbs, that is a bit of an odd one, but I am not complaining if it is true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 would not mind paying £96 if it made them more efficient. my mate waited 7 months for his first sgc last year with Avon and Somerset . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 One thing he is doing right then. Fact remains they waste 90% of the money, from 2001 better computing should have decreased costs - ESPECIALLY WITH RENEWALS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be happy to pay the true cost of renewal.there are a lot of worthy causes out there that get no help why should a hobby/pastime for a few be subsidised.just gives the anti brigade another reason to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be happy to pay the true cost of renewal.there are a lot of worthy causes out there that get no help why should a hobby/pastime for a few be subsidised.just gives the anti brigade another reason to argue. Well pay it then; I'm sure your licensing authority wont object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) would not mind paying £96 if it made them more efficient. my mate waited 7 months for his first sgc last year with Avon and Somerset . I think it said £196! Edited February 10, 2014 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be happy to pay the true cost of renewal.there are a lot of worthy causes out there that get no help why should a hobby/pastime for a few be subsidised.just gives the anti brigade another reason to argue. It isn't a pastime for me and many others, it is a job, and if I have more costs my customers get charged more! This issue of payment has been discussed at length on this forum, and if this latest article is true you now have the opportunity to make a substantial donation to the good cause of YOUR choosing, as you do not have to pay the alleged full price of £196, so you have about £150 to donate! Let us know which good cause you give it to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be happy to pay the true cost of renewal.there are a lot of worthy causes out there that get no help why should a hobby/pastime for a few be subsidised.just gives the anti brigade another reason to argue. well make a donation of £146 to a worthy cause! andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 It isn't a pastime for me and many others, it is a job, and if I have more costs my customers get charged more! This issue of payment has been discussed at length on this forum, and if this latest article is true you now have the opportunity to make a substantial donation to the good cause of YOUR choosing, as you do not have to pay the alleged full price of £196, so you have about £150 to donate! Let us know which good cause you give it to! I am afraid that goes for all businesses in the real world.my farm was no different cost of fuel and equipment cost in the main was passed on as you say.however if your business is not able to absorb at least some of the 140 pounds quoted over a five year period then I respectfully suggest you find another way to earn a living.atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 well make a donation of £146 to a worthy cause! andrew I have many direct debits each month going to several causes and have done for many years.and can assure you it is for significantly more than the cost of a fac/sgc renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I am afraid that goes for all businesses in the real world.my farm was no different cost of fuel and equipment cost in the main was passed on as you say.however if your business is not able to absorb at least some of the 140 pounds quoted over a five year period then I respectfully suggest you find another way to earn a living.atb It's not just peoples businesses it is also people who are employed and use there guns for there job (not well payed at that) so how do they absorbs the costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 It's not just peoples businesses it is also people who are employed and use there guns for there job (not well payed at that) so how do they absorbs the costs[/quote If you are employed your employer should supply all the correct equipment for you to be able to carry out your job in a safe and proper manner.or perhaps I should have asked my lads to provide their own tractors and combines etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) It's not just peoples businesses it is also people who are employed and use there guns for there job (not well payed at that) so how do they absorbs the costs[/quote If you are employed your employer should supply all the correct equipment for you to be able to carry out your job in a safe and proper manner.or perhaps I should have asked my lads to provide their own tractors and combines etc. Did you also supply there driving licences to use the these tractors and combines whilst on the road? Edited February 10, 2014 by r1steele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Did you also supply there driving licences to use the these tractors and combines whilst on the road? Sorry to disappoint you but people who drive machinery at work have to have full training under h&s rules also they have to be assessed and issued licenses on a five yearly basis and in answer to your question yes I did and the farm still does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 costs of running a business and the cost of renewing an existing FAC should not come together even IF a pest controller or keeper etc need one. Fact remains renewals should be way less and take up way less time and effort, Governments are totally brilliant at wasting money! In deed they are so good at it now that we supply free medical treatment for the whole of Europe, while we have food banks on our home soil. If FAC renewals and grants were put out to competitive tender they should likely cost half of that they do now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 costs of running a business and the cost of renewing an existing FAC should not come together even IF a pest controller or keeper etc need one. Fact remains renewals should be way less and take up way less time and effort, Governments are totally brilliant at wasting money! In deed they are so good at it now that we supply free medical treatment for the whole of Europe, while we have food banks on our home soil. If FAC renewals and grants were put out to competitive tender they should likely cost half of that they do now Does g4s come under the competitive tender.because if so lincs police handed over to them and there has been no improvements that can be seen.i you look at the Las vacancy for a fao in lincs and the wages offered you might understand why they struggle to get people to do the job with any enthusiasm.competitive tender means lower wages for staff and higher profit for company.and a lesser service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sorry to disappoint you but people who drive machinery at work have to have full training under h&s rules also they have to be assessed and issued licenses on a five yearly basis and in answer to your question yes I did and the farm still does. I drive machinery at work and have had training, I asked you if you payed for there driving licences as in DVLA. Most people when applying for a job in gamekeeping are asked to have certain qualifications such as a driving licence (usually clean), FAC and SGC. How the heck is a person applying for a job in gamekeeping going to fare without first having SGC and FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 You can deduct it from income tax: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/relief-subs.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Calling SA via Skype is pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 You can deduct it from income tax: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/relief-subs.htm Not as an employed gamekeeper you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I drive machinery at work and have had training, I asked you if you payed for there driving licences as in DVLA. Most people when applying for a job in gamekeeping are asked to have certain qualifications such as a driving licence (usually clean), FAC and SGC. How the heck is a person applying for a job in gamekeeping going to fare without first having SGC and FAC. I think you are getting a tad silly now.the people who have been employed on the farm were at an age where they already had a driving license so do you think I should have paid in retrospect.a driving license is a personal thing and I would expect people to have their own already.how many jobs have you seen advertised for drivers where they needed no license already.i am up for debate but you are now picking holes where there are none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not as an employed gamekeeper you can't. If it is necessary for your work - I would suggest you can, but it would take a little bit of effort to get the relief. As an employee you may be able to reduce your tax bill by getting tax relief on any professional fees and subscriptions you pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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