NicholasSabuldihin Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Alot of talk on the feild this year about the difference between #7.5 and #9 ,, i did a bit of reserch and discoverd there was only 0.28 mm of a differance in shot size ,, is it worth going to #9 shot just to know you might have a few extra shot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 if it is only that small a difference, then you may aswell use #9 or #7. i`ve started to use 9s alot, for everything exept ABT or trap. which i dont really shoot much / any. why dont you try them out for youself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 9s will 'kill' any target that's showing some belly or dome out to 50yds or more. Through tight chokes they'll do the business out to 40yds on crossers too. Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 9s will 'kill' any target that's showing some belly or dome out to 50yds or more. Through tight chokes they'll do the business out to 40yds on crossers too. Regards remmyman yup, 1oz of 9s doing 1500fps dont half whack clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I have a rabbit clay at home with 6 pellets through it which did not count/break..........yep 9 shot at 25 yards..... 9s are perfect for skeet/belly targets I am not convinced by side on crossers/rabbits....i presume this refers to clays? ''talk from the field''.....if its for quarry then I guess rats but nothing bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I have a rabbit clay at home with 6 pellets through it which did not count/break..........yep 9 shot at 25 yards..... 9s are perfect for skeet/belly targets I am not convinced by side on crossers/rabbits....i presume this refers to clays? ''talk from the field''.....if its for quarry then I guess rats but nothing bigger. Totally agree. You need the ability to break targets. Stick to 7.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Correct +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) With the difference in European, Italian, USA and English sizes you have to be careful just going on shot size alone and look at mm, depending on where the cart is made could increase or decrease the difference. Not a problem if staying with one brand but just bear it in mind there are a lot of carts sold over here that are European or Italian sizes rather than all English. For sporting I know quite a few shooters that have a few boxes of 9’s in their range bag for certain target presentations but they are still not confident to shoot a full 100 esp with 9’s. I am shooting Italian 8.5 which is 2.20 mm and akin to an English 8, I would not go any lower than this but it’s just a head thing for me as I have no proof 9’s won’t do the job. Edited February 21, 2014 by timps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 i have shoot lots of RC4 9's and i have to say that their smashed up clays at any range but at £220 a thou are not cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88b Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I shoot mainly skeet, most of the time I use 24 g 9 steel,recently I've been-using 24g 7 because I got a load for £116 a thousand. I really don't think it makes a lot of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I use quite a lot of 9's and only ever buy eley firsts the cheapies.i use them for sporting for some of the closer birds they are a very under rated cartridge.in my opinion.atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Well, Fiocchi 9's done a good enough job at sportrap at the weekend! Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I don't shoot a lot of clays and i'm certainly no expert, but I had a round of sporting at one of the Norfolk flushes last year and shot 43/50 with 9s. They seemed to do the job ok on the further targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Alot of talk on the feild this year about the difference between #7.5 and #9 ,, i did a bit of reserch and discoverd there was only 0.28 mm of a differance in shot size ,, is it worth going to #9 shot just to know you might have a few extra shot ?Split the difference and use 8's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Split the difference and use 8's.... Lots of champspion clay shooters choose 8's over 7.5's and 9's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john m Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Fiocchi f blu 7.5, fast and they break clays when i can hit the bloody things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) The debate about shot sizes and chokes will go on for ever, especially if there's a drink involved. You are trading lots of pellets to fill your pattern with fewer pellets that do more damage because they are heavier As a matter of interest most top skeet shooters use 8's or 7½ NOT 9's The answer will always be subjective, really a case of what works for you, but I attach a chart with shot size, number and strike energy, just to give you something to argue about Lead shot sizes & weights Shot size Diameter in mm Weight per pellet Strike energy @ 1400ft/sec Pellets in 28gr Pellets in 24gr 9 1.78 0.033 gr 2.26 ft-lbf 850 729 8 2.21 0.062 gr 4.22 ft-lbf 450 386 7½ 2.31 0.070 gr 5.22 ft-lbf 400 343 7 2.41 0.082 gr 5.62 ft-lbf 340 291 6½ 2.51 0.093 gr 6.31 ft-lbf 300 257 6 2.6 0.102gr 6.92 ft-lbf 275 235 5 2.79 0.127 gr 8.66 ft-lbf 220 189 4 3.05 0.164 gr 11.19 ft-lbf 170 146 Smaller pellets slow down quicker, and are therefore less effective at distance Kermit (ex skeet shooter) Edited February 24, 2014 by Kermit the frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As a matter of interest most top skeet shooters use 8's or 7½ NOT 9's Not sure why that would be. 9's will dust any skeet target, no problem whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you're in the middle, what if you're not Miss one target go home! kermit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you're in the middle, what if you're not Miss one target go home! kermit The same would be said for the other shot sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you're in the middle, what if you're not Miss one target go home! kermit Well with twice as many pellets I guess I'd have more chance of being 'in the middle'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 My last year or so shooting skeet saw me using steel 9's and I can assure you that they would break any skeet target emphatically. Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No , 2 pellets of 9's might not break a clay, 2 of 7½ probably would, as they have more than double the strike energy Bit like throwing ping pong balls or golf balls Thats how we think anyway kermit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No , 2 pellets of 9's might not break a clay, 2 of 7½ probably would, as they have more than double the strike energy Bit like throwing ping pong balls or golf balls Thats how we think anyway kermit Your argument assumes equal probability of hits in the first place, if that were the case we'd all be using 6's for almost everything. The reason 9's (and 8's) make sense for Skeet is that you cannot be on the target all the time, you will be just off countless times and then you may just clip into a lucky break where even on the outer edges of the pattern there are plenty of tiny pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I always used half choke when shooting skeet and I can assure you that even the second target of a pair on 4 was broken very nicely when using 9's. Regarding the argument of ping pong vs golf balls, if I was constantly relying on 2 pellets breaking the target then I would take myself off and get some much needed lessons. For me, the combination of half choke and 28gr 9's gave very positive breaks(when I done my bit) which inspired confidence, whilst also affording me a bit of 'wriggle room' on those days when I wasn't 'centering' stuff. Each to their own Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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