Underdog Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Often talked about...often put down. A .25 air gun! I love mine and despite being as cheap as this Hatsan is it is brilliant! (Once the trigger is improved!) Underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Totally agree. A works colleague of mine, bought his son a Hatsan Striker 1000S in .22 caliber, and said it was excellent value for money. The trigger was the only 'fault'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Totally agree. A works colleague of mine, bought his son a Hatsan Striker 1000S in .22 caliber, and said it was excellent value for money. The trigger was the only 'fault'. The triggers are easy to do with a stone or just some wet and dry on steel bar of sorts, you don't have to remove the trigger unit from the action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 must say never looked at any of the hatsan range but just had a peep at the dominator and that looks a nice bit of kit... nice one u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 must say never looked at any of the hatsan range but just had a peep at the dominator and that looks a nice bit of kit... nice one uooh...will have to check that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burky Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 what problem do you get with the trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Do you feel it kills stuff any deader at suitable ranges than a .22 with equal placement? Always been tempted and if I found a .25 barrel for the BSA lightning we have here I should give it a try for the heck of it (having tried all the other three extensively), I just cant see it being any more capable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 what problem do you get with the trigger No problem! Just heavy and creepy. Do you feel it kills stuff any deader at suitable ranges than a .22 with equal placement? Always been tempted and if I found a .25 barrel for the BSA lightning we have here I should give it a try for the heck of it (having tried all the other three extensively), I just cant see it being any more capable No not really any different at all....just a bit different that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnyblatter Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm really liking my new scorpion SE in .25 mate. It certainly does the business on the pests Its a Blodnob carbon shroud !!! I can't believe how quiet it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Well done U. I've shot a load of crows, magpies, rats, squirrels and even mink with my .25 striker. I don't think you could beat them for the price. It spends most of its time in the truck, so tends to get used when opportunity arises, just because it's there to hand really. It's put more vermin down than I realise until I start to think about it a bit. It's been worth every penny to me, and I'm not worried about scratches or marks, knocks etc. ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought the Hatsans had a good quattro trigger system , I have the model 60s in .22 but have two BSA supersports and a Falcon FN19 in .25 cal and I am sure at suitable range it kills cleaner than .22 , I have shot many rats at night with the lamp and compared my AA S200 and BSA ultra both in .22 cal to my .25 Falcon and kills are instant with the .25 cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought the Hatsans had a good quattro trigger system , I have the model 60s in .22 but have two BSA supersports and a Falcon FN19 in .25 cal and I am sure at suitable range it kills cleaner than .22 , I have shot many rats at night with the lamp and compared my AA S200 and BSA ultra both in .22 cal to my .25 Falcon and kills are instant with the .25 cal. I find this quite interesting as I think there is something in the extra shock of a larger diameter projectile and its "slower? rate of penetration" we cannot explain by pure mathematic calcs. In theory .177, .20 and .22 all should kill equally with the same kinetic energy at point of impact but having used all three extensively I do believe the .22 has an edge and wonder how far you might be able to take this theory and .25 is the only one I have never hunted with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I find this quite interesting as I think there is something in the extra shock of a larger diameter projectile and its "slower? rate of penetration" we cannot explain by pure mathematic calcs. In theory .177, .20 and .22 all should kill equally with the same kinetic energy at point of impact but having used all three extensively I do believe the .22 has an edge and wonder how far you might be able to take this theory and .25 is the only one I have never hunted with I agree and is hence the basis for me never ever rating ft/lbs as a bench mark for any kind of performance in the field be it a pair of spraggs or a .600NE! U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I find this quite interesting as I think there is something in the extra shock of a larger diameter projectile and its "slower? rate of penetration" we cannot explain by pure mathematic calcs. In theory .177, .20 and .22 all should kill equally with the same kinetic energy at point of impact but having used all three extensively I do believe the .22 has an edge and wonder how far you might be able to take this theory and .25 is the only one I have never hunted with I've been using the lighter .25 pellets, marksman, pylarm as they're around 18 grains, they aren't much heavier or slower than an average .22 but have the added advantage of the larger surface area of the .25. It's not very scientific, but if you shoot at tin can with a .25 you can tell the difference by how it smacks and knocks the can compared to .22. Heavier .25's though, are a bit slow, so probably better suited to FAC rated guns. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I agree and is hence the basis for me never ever rating ft/lbs as a bench mark for any kind of performance in the field be it a pair of spraggs or a .600NE! U A bit like OGW calcs never found one that stacked fully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I've been using the lighter .25 pellets, marksman, pylarm as they're around 18 grains, they aren't much heavier or slower than an average .22 but have the added advantage of the larger surface area of the .25. It's not very scientific, but if you shoot at tin can with a .25 you can tell the difference by how it smacks and knocks the can compared to .22. Heavier .25's though, are a bit slow, so probably better suited to FAC rated guns. Just my opinion. More and more these days I find i am appreciating things for what they are, an airgun is a great tool for controlling pests were a more powerful gun like a .22 rf is not suited. For me this means no greater than 30-35 yards on Rats, ferals etc. I can see the use in a sub 12 ft lb two five as regards quick efficient kills with minimum penetration. Although unscientific the can might mean as much or more than the chronograph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camski Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Hi guys ,, nice looking gun underdog ,,, I always use my bsa xl tactical .25 when vermin hunting ,,awesome gun ,and always kills first shot,, had bunnies at 35 yards no problem ,,would never sell it,, great looking guns,and do the job perfectly well . Regards camski (Paul) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ayoop Paul. I miss my xl tac', it was a 22 but often wondered about a 25 back then! As Kent said, I too am seeing things differently now'a days, I prefer to get closer, my flintlock encourages this and the 357 and the .25 air gun. I am on more equal terms with the quarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 range doesn't really come into it when lamping rats at night as once you are set up its a bit like pigeon decoying , I suppose most are shot within a range of 10 - 20 yds but you can see immediately the difference , don't get any creeping off I use Bisley field and have used the heavier pest control as long as you rezero in .25 , ok I know if you using right weight of pellet (hollow point even) and good shot placement even with .177 it will kill them but I have shot all calibres of airgun and even some with rimfire but the .25 in my book has been the best , never tried them on bigger pests though but I suppose with a lighter pellet and keep within 25 yds would be ok , try shooting different calibres at a pumpkin and you will see how different the .25 is , I have often thought about one one f.a.c. but then you might as well use a short rimfire round . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 A few here with the striker .25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Hey...that's a posh stock! Diddna know they did one like that! U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Popped out after work for a rabbit with it today and also got a magpie, cracked it's noggin around 35yds! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 cracking shot not easy with a .25 with open sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Which pellets are you using in the striker U? I've found h&n ftt's, marksman and pylarm all work well in mine. Good shooting fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I was using the Milbro rhino which ain't the best! Mine loves the H&N FTT's too, not tried the Marksmen.....yet. U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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