chris simmo Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 nightmaster 800 anybody use one of these would be intrested on your views sick of waisting money on gun lamps that are not up to the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Best lamp ever,I love mine best money I ever spent.I was the same as you mate wasting money, this even nocks the sicks off the lightforce 140. Edited March 23, 2014 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 nightmaster 800 anybody use one of these would be intrested on your views sick of waisting money on gun lamps that are not up to the job I know where you're coming from, so many lamps fail to deliver. Thought about the nm800 but would like to see one in action before splashing the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 ive always used the lightforce 170 but since getting nm 800 its redundant no lugging heavy batterys can carry spare in your pocket and 300 yard beam is impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Bought a nm 800 and sold my Cluson and Deben and battery and never looked back. Must agree with redgum the square beam is a bit strange at first but you soon get used to it. Edited March 24, 2014 by samboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I have the NM800 with IR and red. The red pills is pretty amazing and really does push out there and is really light in weight even with the two battery tube. It is far superior to anything I have ever seen, filtered white bulbs just cannot compete as the light emitted is actually red rather than being filtered which means a big loss in power. It seems a bit odd a first having a square beam instead of round but its only what your used to and works very well. I use the IR on my R750 and certainly adds to the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris simmo Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 thanks lads just orderd one will let you no how it goes theres some good videos on you tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) thanks lads just orderd one will let you no how it goes theres some good videos on you tube wise man Edited March 24, 2014 by martyn2233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Okay, they're good but... the flood to focus is pants. All that twiddling the head around and around and then the three mode thing, if yours has three modes, having to unscrew the head to access the modes is just poor design. Definitely a case of good, but could be much, much better. I've heard that o-light are in the process of developing an aspheric thrower, I just hope they get the flood to focus thing bang on. If you're using it as a hand help red lamp, probably still the best move you'll make for a long while though. On a rifle scope that twiddling means however that the LED can rotate too, even slightly is an issue. As the leds are seldom dead centre it will mean that your focused pattern moves around an arc in your scope, which means you have to keep adjusting windage and elevation. Best bet is to find a happy setting and leave it there. Leave the torch attached to the mount when you take it off, rather than taking the torch out of the mount every time (this assumes your going to buy the Taclight torch mount with windage and elevation, because it's the only one worth having if you want to scope mount your NM800). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Okay, they're good but... the flood to focus is pants. All that twiddling the head around and around and then the three mode thing, if yours has three modes, having to unscrew the head to access the modes is just poor design. Definitely a case of good, but could be much, much better. I've heard that o-light are in the process of developing an aspheric thrower, I just hope they get the flood to focus thing bang on. If you're using it as a hand help red lamp, probably still the best move you'll make for a long while though. On a rifle scope that twiddling means however that the LED can rotate too, even slightly is an issue. As the leds are seldom dead centre it will mean that your focused pattern moves around an arc in your scope, which means you have to keep adjusting windage and elevation. Best bet is to find a happy setting and leave it there. Leave the torch attached to the mount when you take it off, rather than taking the torch out of the mount every time (this assumes your going to buy the Taclight torch mount with windage and elevation, because it's the only one worth having if you want to scope mount your NM800). That's like saying a Ferrari is a great car but just a bit to low to the ground. Having had a range of lights for lamping this really is a step a head, the three mode thing is better than no options and once you get used to using it its not rocket science to keep it on the setting you like, I just keep mine on the high setting. Scope or barrel mounting will always be a problem with a narrow beam lamp and some packing or lateral thinking may be required on mounting the lamp but once you have it sorted. I adapted a cluson swivel mount off an old set up on mine and it works a treat. Mick, followed your posts on your nv set up, very impressive and I'm sure with your skills could develop a much better system, maybe something that controls lamp direction and brain wave patterns but for us mere mortals its the best thing out there at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Develop something better? Not really, the trouble is that led lenser have the patent on the push pull thing. That means, unless you get a Chinese torch as they don't seem to care so much about patents, everything else is a bit of a compromise. The t20 has a head that runs on a very coarse thread, which makes the adjustment of the beam so much easier. The nm800 just uses the standard fine thread you find on any torch body. This is fine provided you don't want to quickly adjust the beam, but for rifle shooting you do want exactly that. Also, if you wind the head out to give a wider beam, because the head no longer sits against the shoulder of the torch, you get a dreadful amount of slop and play in the head. It wobbles around a lot. I believe the nm800 is just a pretty bog standard body onto which they've put an awesome lens. The lens is the really great part, there's none better. I just wish they'd given a bit more thought to the mechanism by which you adjust it. I wouldn't compare it to a Ferrari, at the moment it's more a Porsche Cayenne. As you and I both said, leave on one setting and one adjustment and its great. It could have been so much more though in terms of being a gun light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I do think that the mount the taclight sell is the best one for it though, it's pricey but solid and gives a fine adjustment which makes centring the beam in the field of view a doddle. It's worth the high price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Afew years ago i wanted the Taclight, the someone took the import rights and banged on the dollar so there was no way i was going to pay the price. After a while i clocked on to the small sun 13 and the crelant head. i played for a while and then sold the body off. the T20 then came the standard. i have pasted my fair share of these around. but then i found, will a bit of lathe work i could get the crelant head to fit the T20 and still be able to use the twin thread that the T20 uses. this without any other mods, like over driven LED's or trimmed LED's, i can out throw a NM800 if i wanted to compete with the brightness i would change to the orange/red A1 led that taclight use but no, i want a RED led.lol. the best thing is i can change from a trow to a flood with a flick of the lens.I have now found, that if you paint duracoat/cerakote onto your thread on the T20 it tightens it up nicely with no slop at all. all my torchs are single battery, the red runs long time, the IR runs short time, but then im cooking the pill to get the extra on the photon sorry, i just have a hate for nightmaster. great product but im not being forced into buying from the one place. i think its wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) After using the NM800 red & IR,I wouldn't use anything else. It does everything it says on the tin and more,its not a bad price in my opinion.The lightforce tactical 700 I replaced it with was the same price,but utter rubbish.The lightforce 140 is rubbish compaired to this(only kept the 140 sorry just checked its a 170)as its perminatly wired into the 4x4.Taclighg arnt the only retailer, John Brown Field sports is also flogging them. Edited March 25, 2014 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I can get them cheap if you want any info where pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I've the Tiablo A10 which I was initially happy with but with the red filter, the range isn't impressive. IIRC, significantly less than the Lightforce 140 with red. Does anyone know if the NM800 red would be better than the A10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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