OJW Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Afternoon guys I was wondering if anyone knew the position of some of the main parties on the aforementioned topics? I realise these answers will be available somewhere on the internet but as is the nature of politics, these may be less than straightforward. For example the Countryside Alliance today reported that the Government might not fulfil its coalition commitment to a free vote on the repeal of the Hunting Act, its not really clear who's view is who's on the matter or simply if no one cares this close to elections. I was hoping someone on here might have an interest in politics and know what each of the following parties views' on shooting and country sports really are; minus the political twaddle? Labour Conservatives Lib Dems UKIP Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 whatever they think will get them the most votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 whatever they think will get them the most votes True. Whilst the simplistic answer would be to say that the Tories and UKIP will be pro, whilst Labour and the Lib Dems will be anti, it is of course nowhere near as simple as that. Having said that it's probably fair to say that neither a Lib Dem nor a Labour government will be a friend to hunting and shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I was just trying to find the thread from ages ago when we all emailed our local MPs for their stance, but i'm damned if i can find it. My Tory and Lib Dem where both pro hunting, Labour didn't bother replying as i recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I was just trying to find the thread from ages ago when we all emailed our local MPs for their stance, but i'm damned if i can find it. My Tory and Lib Dem where both pro hunting, Labour didn't bother replying as i recall are you maybe thinking of the Police and Crime Commisioners elections? edit: quick search turned up this http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/227674-what-sort-of-pcc-did-you-get/ but i think there was another thread before the elections. Edited April 22, 2014 by HW682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 don't think it was PCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 here it is... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/123301-general-election/ and here's the collated results - just stick in your postcode http://campaign.publicaffairsbriefing.co.uk/BASC/emailsupport.aspx?cid=cbe623ac-bce3-43c0-8353-490c7e6ead7e/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 don't think it was PCC Oh well.. (that is the only recent time I remember researching peoples views on shooting. Thought it might have helped.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Oh well.. (that is the only recent time I remember researching peoples views on shooting. Thought it might have helped.) edit; crossed with post above. 4 years ago. fooled me by saying recent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Say UKIP had their way and we left the EU, would the law on not using lead shot on certain species be reviewed? (I think I read that law originated from the EU) unless the government decided that they wanted to keep/ reimplement the legislation themselves. Recently it just made me think about all the parties' policy on the countryside, no doubt from seeing all the party leaders plod out into the countryside in their wellies due to the Somerset floods. There seems to be so much dialect in the media about laws on SGC and licensing fees and fox hunting I thought some parties may have made a firm stance regarding their position on country pursuits. Edited April 22, 2014 by OJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 here it is... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/123301-general-election/ and here's the collated results - just stick in your postcode http://campaign.publicaffairsbriefing.co.uk/BASC/emailsupport.aspx?cid=cbe623ac-bce3-43c0-8353-490c7e6ead7e/ Thanks for that. Euro elections on the way, is there anything similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Whilst you may get individual exceptions, left wing politics / socialism will always be anti, after all - the nanny state which forms the fabric of such political opinions will always be powered by the belief that they state knows best, and the state has a right to dictate. The worst example of this being the ex hunt Sab labour mp for derby north - Chris Williams ! He's also hanging on by a slim majority- so anyone in his area needs to make sure they get voting at the next opportunity ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Regarding European elections - see here: http://campaign.publicaffairsbriefing.co.uk/home.aspx?cid=4e40d0ea-83e2-4afc-a02c-b148e1afd394 BASC will also be running another strong campaign on the run up to the general election - indeed our political team are already campaigning hard to secure top level support for shooting from all the political parties, but we will be asking all shooters to lobby their local MP / local political party leaders too, because together we are a much stronger voice! So please support BASC when we ask you to do your bit to support shooting. With regard to hunting, I think the PM is holding back until he is confident of majority support in the House, no point in running a free vote if you know you do not have majority support. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Thanks guys, and David BASC cheers, strength in numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Regarding European elections - see here: http://campaign.publicaffairsbriefing.co.uk/home.aspx?cid=4e40d0ea-83e2-4afc-a02c-b148e1afd394BASC will also be running another strong campaign on the run up to the general election - indeed our political team are already campaigning hard to secure top level support for shooting from all the political parties, but we will be asking all shooters to lobby their local MP / local political party leaders too, because together we are a much stronger voice! So please support BASC when we ask you to do your bit to support shooting.With regard to hunting, I think the PM is holding back until he is confident of majority support in the House, no point in running a free vote if you know you do not have majority support.David Thanks David I have send the email to all the ones on my local list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I have already emailed the local candidates asking for their stance on shooting sports! I am still waiting for a reply! I contacted Labour, Judith Darling "Neutral" and Paul Brannen "PRO" Conservative, Martin Callanan and Ben Houchen LibDem, Angelika Schneider "Neutral" and Owen Temple UKIP, Jonathan Arnott and Richard Elvin Green Party, Shirley Ford. I will report back if I get a reply! Edited April 24, 2014 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Think mine are Conservative - supportive UKIP - supportive Labour - Unknown Green party - Anti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 'Call me Dave' is pro country sports so with my deep mistrust of Labour after they bankrupt us and the orange lot wanting to tax wealth, property, land, sex etc etc that rather narrows it down for me. Oh, nearly forgot UKIP - for me they are proof that care in the community just doesn't work. Put them back in the asylum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Updated! 3 candidates have replied now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have had one reply, conservative very supporting of country sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have already emailed the local candidates asking for their stance on shooting sports! I am still waiting for a reply! I contacted Labour, Judith Darling "Neutral" and Paul Brannen "PRO" Conservative, Martin Callanan and Ben Houchen LibDem, Angelika Schneider "Neutral" and Owen Temple UKIP, Jonathan Arnott "PRO" and Richard Elvin Green Party, Shirley Ford. I will report back if I get a reply! Edited to include the 4 replies so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 In my opinion, it matters not how supportive any politician is over shooting and gun ownership, ignorance and emotion fuelled by the media overcomes all rational thought. Letters in MP's postbags are our only of hitting back. Our shooting organisations do their best with limited budgets, but even they made a massive mistake after Dunblane when they failed to hold the line, swallowing the bull**** that it was best to await for the public enquiry before lobbying. Pistols were banned by ****-scared Tories and the inquiry was a scandalous whitewash where certain guilty men from the Labour party directed the electorate and the media away from the real issues with an absurd clamour for a ban on all firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have already emailed the local candidates asking for their stance on shooting sports! I am still waiting for a reply! I contacted Labour, Judith Darling "Neutral" and Paul Brannen "PRO" Conservative, Martin Callanan and Ben Houchen LibDem, Angelika Schneider "Neutral" and Owen Temple UKIP, Jonathan Arnott and Richard Elvin Green Party, Shirley Ford. "ANTI" I will report back if I get a reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Andrew Duff - LibDem - Pro. 'Thank you very much for your letter concerning shooting sports and for asking my views on the matter. Most certainly, I am in favour of shooting as a sport being conducted according to best practice. The European Union's rules aim precisely at this: ensuring that shooting sports are, on the one hand, recognised as fully legitimate and, on the other, that far reaching standards of protection of biodiversity, sustainability of hunting practices and the respect of the various international agreements are carefully applied. In this sense, FACE (Federation of Associations for Hunting and Conservation of the EU), as well as many other relevant associations, must be thanked for their active engagement with the EU representatives and institutions. Your contributions to the shaping of the European Union's policies on this field is of paramount importance for the creation of a well-informed and focussed discussions on hunting and shooting sports. Best wishes to your campaign,' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Andrew Duff - LibDem - Pro. 'Thank you very much for your letter concerning shooting sports and for asking my views on the matter. Most certainly, I am in favour of shooting as a sport being conducted according to best practice. The European Union's rules aim precisely at this: ensuring that shooting sports are, on the one hand, recognised as fully legitimate and, on the other, that far reaching standards of protection of biodiversity, sustainability of hunting practices and the respect of the various international agreements are carefully applied. In this sense, FACE (Federation of Associations for Hunting and Conservation of the EU), as well as many other relevant associations, must be thanked for their active engagement with the EU representatives and institutions. Your contributions to the shaping of the European Union's policies on this field is of paramount importance for the creation of a well-informed and focussed discussions on hunting and shooting sports. Best wishes to your campaign,' Well that's a load of EuroSpeak. Yes, I support what my european masters tell me, and as long as it's ok with them it's ok with me. Hopefully he hasn't a large majority? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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