strangford wildfowler Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Iam looking for recommendations for paints you would use to spruce up some mallard decs as we where reding out and I for a couple bpdies are fine all the need is a lick of paint and I am wondering does anyone use specific types of paints or do you just use plain paints? Cheers for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'm doing this myself at present Light Grey undercoat oil based for body And using matt model oil paint for everything else I will post some pics later but don't look bad at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'm doing this myself at present Light Grey undercoat oil based for body And using matt model oil paint for everything else I will post some pics later but don't look bad at present Cheers spaniel the pics would help if you manage to upload them Cheers for he help SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Will do on the pc later as they are to large to upload from the phone Grey undercoat to shinny so back to the model shop this week but head beak and breast looking good in matte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I never bother - I think it is the shape and layout that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitty tree Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 same as grandalf I never bother . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I never bother - I think it is the shape and layout that matters. Dad said that but I'm convinced coloration has something to do with it as well Cheers for the help SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Send me your email address and I will forward some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 You should have an email or 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 You should have an email or 3 Cheers spaniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Regular test pot emulsions with a Plasti-Kote clear matt spray lacquer from B&Q of the top. Iam looking for recommendations for paints you would use to spruce up some mallard decs as we where reding out and I for a couple bpdies are fine all the need is a lick of paint and I am wondering does anyone use specific types of paints or do you just use plain paints?Cheers for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Hi , 2 pics of deeks , I re painted after last season . Leaving aside the arguments for and against Black silhouette V, painted Deeks , IMHO once you decide to paint it should be as close as possible to what you are trying to Decoy in . Other than Larger White areas that is what I have tried to achieve . I used Matt Humbrol model paints , Gloss will do and then let it dry for a few days and over spray with Matt vanish as per tin in scan . Protects the finish as well as the matt effect , works well for me . No Mallard Drake as I just discovered I didn't re paint since last outing , they will do for next season just fine . If you are using lots of White and Grey paint , household undercoat will be just fine and better when sealed with a coat of matt varnish , Enjoy ! Oh , last thought , Paint the Eye Gloss black , after you have sprayed the Matt varnish over the whole Deek . Edited June 3, 2014 by GADWALL41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Acrylic paints any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Acrylics paints are water soluble on their own (been there, done that). A spray with a clear matt lacquer like Plasti-Kote will stop the acrylic paint washing off. Acrylic paints any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Acrylics paints are water soluble on their own (been there, done that). A spray with a clear matt lacquer like Plasti-Kote will stop the acrylic paint washing off. Thanks will try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Cheers men for the help much appreciated Any SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 On my teal decoys I overprinted the white flank strip and put a couple of white and black streaks on the coverts, just to Europeanise them. Don't think the teal care a jot but to me they now look 'right' :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I never bother - I think it is the shape and layout that matters. That'l do for me Cant fault years of experience, mine can stay grubby Its a bit like my old Baikal I used to clean it every Boxing Day whether it needed it or not. Regards H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) A hair splitting technical note. I see that a few fowlers paint a white stripe on the flank of their teal decoys. The teal decoys available in the UK are intended for the U.S. market and represent the north American Green Winged Teal which does have a white flank stripe. However, our teal, the Eurasian teal (anas crecca), is of a slightly different species and does not, in fact, have a white flank stripe. On the rare occassions that I paint my deeks, I actually go out of my way to overpaint the white stripe since it`s something that our teal are not expecting to see. It does rather beg the academic question that,if we`ve been painting decoys in colours that the birds don`t encounter and they still come into the decoys, is it actually the colour or the shape that pulls them in? Edited June 6, 2014 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Or if they get that close to notice they should never remember it. IMO painting decoys up correctly may not be necessary, but certainly does no harm and may help in certain circumstances in daylight shooting. A hair splitting technical note. I see that a few fowlers paint a white stripe on the flank of their teal decoys. The teal decoys available in the UK are intended for the U.S. market and represent the north American Green Winged Teal which does have a white flank stripe. However, our teal, the Eurasian teal (anas crecca), is of a slightly different species and does not, in fact, have a white flank stripe. On the rare occassions that I paint my deeks, I actually go out of my way to overpaint the white stripe since it`s something that our teal are not expecting to see. It does rather beg the academic question that,if you`ve been painting decoys in colours that the birds don`t encounter and they still come into the decoys, is it actually the colour or the shape that pulls them in? Edited June 6, 2014 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Agreed, painting them up certainly does no harm whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Teal , Italian made decoys for the American Market . As per the previously posted pic. However I find that the Extra , white Stripe certainly Helps at Dusk even to Draw In Wegion , when only Teal deeks are carried .( MORE DEEKS LESS WEIGHT) Teal can vary a bit in the White Regions, please see the link below. Slightly! off topic North American Teal, Eurasian cross Teal also carries over to Wegion, as I found out 2 seasons ago When I shot a Drake Wegion , North American - Eurasian cross, quite distinctive. http://www.sibleyguides.com/2011/03/distinguishing-green-winged-and-common-teal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Fascinating stuff! I sometimes think that the distribution of GWTeal in the U.K. is a bit like the various sub species of Brent Geese. For years none are seen, then someone observant spots something unusual, and, before you know it, odd birds are turning up all the time. A fact that probably has more to do with the relative quality and price of birdwatchers telescopes rather than any real change in distribution. They`ve probably always been here but nobody noticed. There were two GWTeal in the vicinity of my fowling grounds for almost all of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) The importance of decoy colour depends of the time of day you shoot. In the dim light of dawn or dusk colour matters little as all the ducks see are the dark outline of your decoys. However it can be very different decoying in broad daylight. I have often seen decoy shy duck sheer off battered decoys while being fooled by feather perfect decoys. I usually sort out my decoys just before the start of the season. I used to paint up the drakes , but these days I only repaint them when they are getting pretty battered and I repaint them as females , it’s a lot simpler than copying drake colours. Of course you tend to end up with more females than males , but it gives me an excuse to buy a few new drakes each season. Having females outnumber your males in your decoy pattern is no bad thing. Looking at the decoys from ground level it’s the drakes that stand out, but when looking at them from above their various shades of grey merge into the same grey that water reflects from an overcast sky while the brown females stand out the drakes can be hard to see. After all the body colour of most drakes is the same grey as used to disguise a gunning punt. Before painting American decoys make sure they are not UV painted decoys or you will cover up the UV paint. Edited June 7, 2014 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Dulux weather shield satin (and only satin not the gloss) is good for plastic and requires no undercoat! Get it in white and tint it yourself or get the paint shop to do it though they will only do full tins (bit much if you just want half a dozen green heads). I don't believe exact colour representation important for 95% of UK use indeed exaggeration of the white on cock widgeon etc might help. Tatty drakes are better than great resplendent newly painted ones early season and full black are very good at drawing duck from a distance, though a baulk at my full spread being black even at night / eve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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