benbull Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi All, I was commissioned to photograph a clients home from the seat of my uncles cessna aircraft on Sunday, and we flew over a field that was home to 'some' crows (feel free to count!)... and a few pigeons, which might also be interesting to see. Anyway, I grabbed a shot (36.3 megapixels!) and have also included a link to a 100% crop from another picture, which shows the same field, but from quite a distance! These were taken over Panfield, Essex... just outside Braintree. Anyone shoot over there? Perhaps something can be learnt from these, quite interesting to see their shape from above (do zoom in!), and their 'layout' etc.. http://countryshot.co.uk/files/DSC_3290.jpg http://countryshot.co.uk/files/DSC_3359.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 they know there is more food between the tramlines rather than outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi All, I was commissioned to photograph a clients home from the seat of my uncles cessna aircraft on Sunday, and we flew over a field that was home to 'some' crows (feel free to count!)... and a few pigeons, which might also be interesting to see. Anyway, I grabbed a shot (36.3 megapixels!) and have also included a link to a 100% crop from another picture, which shows the same field, but from quite a distance! These were taken over Panfield, Essex... just outside Braintree. Anyone shoot over there? Perhaps something can be learnt from these, quite interesting to see their shape from above (do zoom in!), and their 'layout' etc.. http://countryshot.co.uk/files/DSC_3290.jpg http://countryshot.co.uk/files/DSC_3359.jpg Very interesting! I think they are in the tramlines, a) because there is more food there, which they find by trial and error but also b) because it is easier to land ON a flattened tramline than in 6-inch long, sharp, stubble. I have often watched pigeons flutter over stubble then drop onto the tramline, and usuallly set my decoys like that. Challenge that observation if you like, ........ Next question, anyone used one of these drone things yet, either to find pigeons or to scare then off the wrong part of the field you are set up on?? What radio range do they have?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfbee Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Cracking image, I could easily hang that on my wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 36.3 megapixels! Another D800 user then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbull Posted September 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Another D800 user then.... Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbull Posted September 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Next question, anyone used one of these drone things yet, either to find pigeons or to scare then off the wrong part of the field you are set up on?? What radio range do they have?? Think max range is 1km, but probably not with a video feed. Then you have the investment/crashes to repair! Edited September 15, 2014 by benbull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Plus very expensive to set up, you need training and a licence and hefty insurance to fly them. You'll get a lot of bangers for 5k +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster659 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Great photos BB, I am an absolute novice to this decoying game and seeing the way in which those birds have landed on the stubble has given me food for thought. Nice one Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollerman Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Colchester Wildfowlers were shooting the land around the airfield a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Next question, anyone used one of these drone things yet, either to find pigeons or to scare then off the wrong part of the field you are set up on?? What radio range do they have?? RPAS pilot checking in. CAA Laws state no higher than 400ft AGL and 500m from the RPAS Pilot. Anything beyond this requires moves into EVLOS and BVLOS flying which requires a sill amount of paperwork and risk mitigation. Theoretically, I have about an eight mile range (if I exhausted the batteries on a single trip), on autopilot. About 800m range if the radios are in use. Any questions, feel free to ask. Edited September 16, 2014 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Plus very expensive to set up, you need training and a licence and hefty insurance to fly them. You'll get a lot of bangers for 5k +. Depending on what you are using the equipment for, you do not need a licence. For non commercial work (any sort of financial reward), you're pretty much a hobbyist and don't even need insurance. Just don't go flying anywhere stupid, such as central London or near a major airport. My insurance is £64 a month, for £5m cover. Total equipment cost/cover tops £15k Anything over 7kgs (Including fuel) requires ATC clearance if you're in controlled airspace. You could set one up as a pigeon scarer for £300, but I can't see it being any better than a banger rope. Animals don't care so much for quadcopters. Edited September 16, 2014 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Depending on what you are using the equipment for, you do not need a licence. For non commercial work (any sort of financial reward), you're pretty much a hobbyist and don't even need insurance. Just don't go flying anywhere stupid, such as central London or near a major airport. My insurance is £64 a month, for £5m cover. Total equipment cost/cover tops £15k Anything over 7kgs (Including fuel) requires ATC clearance if you're in controlled airspace. You could set one up as a pigeon scarer for £300, but I can't see it being any better than a banger rope. Animals don't care so much for quadcopters. Thanks for the info. A friend set up with 4 for just over £10k, 2k for insurance alone, so I assumed insurance was a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the info. A friend set up with 4 for just over £10k, 2k for insurance alone, so I assumed insurance was a must. Four what? Quadcopters?! I've only got one! I'd probably tell him to change his insurer. £2k is a lot. His risk doesn't go up with the number he owns, he can only fly one at a time! Edited September 16, 2014 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Plus very expensive to set up, you need training and a licence and hefty insurance to fly them. You'll get a lot of bangers for 5k +. Shame if you need all that BS.. Maybe I'll give that idea up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbull Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Great photos BB, I am an absolute novice to this decoying game and seeing the way in which those birds have landed on the stubble has given me food for thought. Nice one Jim No worries Jim, I'm new to the game too... and is interesting to see the trends. Unfortunately there were a ton of pigeons on another field, but the plane scared them off, so wasn't able to get a 'shot'... still, someone shooting that area could do very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I think the crows are feeding where the straw trails where there will be more food as some goes through the back of the combine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolgrip Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 My friend flew his quadcopter around one of my farms to highlight some drainage issues for the farmer not only was the farmer over the moon I learned a few interesting things for myself you could see runs in the wheat from charles how much damage the bagers have caused in the maze what sets were active where the birds were knocking down all from the luxury of the car amazing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Great photograph and reinforces the old thought that Crow decoys should be placed in pairs not all spread and separated as with Pigeons. Amazing the amount of pairs present, much more prevalent than I would have assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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