Any groundwork / drainage experts .

[fenboy]

I am currently helping renovate a house for my daughter , we have knocked a old pantry and small downstairs toilet into one to create a shower room with toilet and basin etc.

 

its all complete apart from the waste pipe from the toilet , I have got the pipe through the wall and am intending to drop it down and break through an existing manhole.

 

However when digging out down to the level i need I came across the old pipe and it had a plastic collar joining to the original pipe from the downstairs toilet (I had to re position the new one )

 

So I am thinking I can now just join up to this pipe and avoid breaking through the man hole and creating more work.

 

The issue I have was the house was built in 1972 so I need a collar that will fit between the new 110mm pipe and the original clay / salt glaze pipe which seems to be 5 " O/D

 

So does such a thing exist and if so were do I get one .

 

 

[flynny]

Try key line, or use a bandseal,

 

Atb

 

Flynny

[plank06]

eBay might be worth a look!

[mark@mbb]

Many years ago a salt glazed plastic collar connected to a supasleeve plastic collar would fit onto 100mm plastic but the fittings are available of the shelf now in many forms

[Fisherman Mike]

I am currently helping renovate a house for my daughter , we have knocked a old pantry and small downstairs toilet into one to create a shower room with toilet and basin etc.

 

its all complete apart from the waste pipe from the toilet , I have got the pipe through the wall and am intending to drop it down and break through an existing manhole.

 

However when digging out down to the level i need I came across the old pipe and it had a plastic collar joining to the original pipe from the downstairs toilet (I had to re position the new one )

 

So I am thinking I can now just join up to this pipe and avoid breaking through the man hole and creating more work.

 

The issue I have was the house was built in 1972 so I need a collar that will fit between the new 110mm pipe and the original clay / salt glaze pipe which seems to be 5 " O/D

 

So does such a thing exist and if so were do I get one .

 

Yes and yes..just go to your local builders merchants and ask for a metric to imperial coupling. Are you sure the new pipe is 110mm though. ?

[Gamefarm]

Any good builders merchant -Drain Center etc.... all sell flexible repair couplings for underground drainage to cover all common pipe diameters. Basically just a rubber sleeve with a coupleof stainless steel jubilee clips. Simples to fit.

[fenboy]

 

I am currently helping renovate a house for my daughter , we have knocked a old pantry and small downstairs toilet into one to create a shower room with toilet and basin etc.

 

its all complete apart from the waste pipe from the toilet , I have got the pipe through the wall and am intending to drop it down and break through an existing manhole.

 

However when digging out down to the level i need I came across the old pipe and it had a plastic collar joining to the original pipe from the downstairs toilet (I had to re position the new one )

 

So I am thinking I can now just join up to this pipe and avoid breaking through the man hole and creating more work.

 

The issue I have was the house was built in 1972 so I need a collar that will fit between the new 110mm pipe and the original clay / salt glaze pipe which seems to be 5 " O/D

 

So does such a thing exist and if so were do I get one .

 

Yes and yes..just go to your local builders merchants and ask for a metric to imperial coupling. Are you sure the new pipe is 110mm though. ?

 

Yes 100 % sure .

Thanks for the replies , I will visit one of the local builders merchants and see what they have .

[figgy]

As above a rubber coupler to go from clay to 110 soil pipe.

 

A local drainage centre part of Wolsey group or even Jewsons stock a lot of this stuff.

 

Figgy

[fenboy]

Ok but would a rubber coupling not collapse with the weight of concrete etc on top of it leading to the toilet blocking ??

[6ofthebest]

it is called a fernco connecter

[Essex Keeper]

U can use a rubber joint but building control might not like it

 

That's if your having building control

[Mike737]

Screwfix - £10.99 inc VAT

 

http://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-adaptor/19914

 

I got one of these some years back and it does the trick!

 

Mike.

[fenboy]

U can use a rubber joint but building control might not like it

 

That's if your having building control

 

No building control.

[fenboy]

Screwfix - £10.99 inc VAT

 

http://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-adaptor/19914

 

I got one of these some years back and it does the trick!

 

Mike.

 

Yes that is just the right size .

thanks , I have a screwfix nearby too

[chady]

Put 10mm pea gravel around it. To allow for movement and to protect the coller if you need to get to it later.

 

If you have no 10mm use building sand.

[fenboy]

Put 10mm pea gravel around it. To allow for movement and to protect the coller if you need to get to it later.

 

If you have no 10mm use building sand.

 

Thanks for that.

[chady]

Where are you based on my phone

[bobt]

how do you rod any blockage on the pipe?

it should go into the manhole.

[chady]

Depends on how far the manhole is away, the location of the manhole and so on there may be rodding points all ready installed.

[la bala]

Hey fenboy, had a word with building inspector, he will be there in the morning.

[fenboy]

Hey fenboy, had a word with building inspector, he will be there in the morning.

 

Thanks

Where are you based on my phone

 

I am in lincolnshire.

[fenboy]

how do you rod any blockage on the pipe?

it should go into the manhole.

 

It will go into the man hole , I am joining to a existing pipe that goes through the manhole , it will be no different to what was there originally apart from some of the pipe will now be metric.

[chady]

Ok mate to far from me if have come and given you a hand with it.

 

 

But it's simple enough

 

Depending on what fitting you have/get.

 

Just get a file on the edger and form a slight shanfer on the edge.

 

And put some fairy liquid on the pipe an it will slip into the connector easier.

 

You can get pipe grease but don't bother with what you need it for.

 

But you won't need to do the aboveon the rubber coller to the clay.

 

Just the tight plastic conector/corners.

[fenboy]

Ok mate to far from me if have come and given you a hand with it.

 

 

But it's simple enough

 

Depending on what fitting you have/get.

 

Just get a file on the edger and form a slight shanfer on the edge.

 

And put some fairy liquid on the pipe an it will slip into the connector easier.

 

You can get pipe grease but don't bother with what you need it for.

 

But you won't need to do the aboveon the rubber coller to the clay.

 

Just the tight plastic conector/corners.

Thanks , The pipe and bends have a chamfer already on them , its not a big job now I have sourced the correct fitting part.

[la bala]

Thanks , The pipe and bends have a chamfer already on them , its not a big job now I have sourced the correct fitting part.

Dont forget to do your pressure test on your new pipework fenboy