I am a hero

[fella]

Hey, Im gonna throw this out there, driving at 120 for theft of a chicken isn't proportionate for you. It's just a chicken, and driving at 120 is a totally unreasonable speed that could kill you, or them, or the police, or the public should it all go wrong.

 

I understand it's important to catch baddies (chicken thieves...) but it is much more important to stay alive.

[wildrover77]

Hey, Im gonna throw this out there, driving at 120 for theft of a chicken isn't proportionate for you. It's just a chicken, and driving at 120 is a totally unreasonable speed that could kill you, or them, or the police, or the public should it all go wrong.

 

I understand it's important to catch baddies (chicken thieves...) but it is much more important to stay alive.

I can assure drive at 120 will not kill you did it on the autobahn in January.

 

if you re read my post I stated that I judged the police to have passed me. At 120

[loriusgarrulus]

Driving at 120 doesn't kill you its crashing into something at 120 that does.

 

Well done on getting the chicken nappers.

[fella]

I can assure drive at 120 will not kill you did it on the autobahn in January.

 

if you re read my post I stated that I judged the police to have passed me. At 120

 

Yeah, were you chasing chicken-nappers then too?

 

For the sake of a chicken you took an enormous risk. Count yourself lucky.

[wildrover77]

Yeah, were you chasing chicken-nappers then too?

 

For the sake of a chicken you took an enormous risk. Count yourself lucky.

Enormous risk, how?

[fella]

Enormous risk, how?

 

By driving at 120 mph?!

[overandunder2012]

Hey, Im gonna throw this out there, driving at 120 for theft of a chicken isn't proportionate for you. It's just a chicken, and driving at 120 is a totally unreasonable speed that could kill you, or them, or the police, or the public should it all go wrong.

 

I understand it's important to catch baddies (chicken thieves...) but it is much more important to stay alive.

im surprised they didnt nick him somebody could have been killed surely getting the reg plate would have done it, and he's on the phone while driving hope it was a hands free

Edited November 3, 2014 by overandunder2012

[wildrover77]

 

By driving at 120 mph?!

im surprised they didnt nick him somebody could have been killed surely getting the reg plate would have done it, and he's on the phone while driving hope it was a hands free

You are a bit thick or have not read the full thread I never confessed to driving at 120, I suggested the police passed me at that speed.

 

The Reg number is no good if the car is stolen or the ownership has changed, as was the case.

 

I am a responsible citizen I do not sit back when I see a problem I get involved, thankfully there are some of us left. I drove perfectly safely the whol time, as did the criminals.

 

Apparently it is perfectly acceptBle to use your mobile phone while driving in an emergency when phoning the police.

 

I notice at least one of you is a southern softy, probably where all the horror stories about the police come from as well. The yorkshire bobbies that took my statement were great we're glad of the help.

Edited November 3, 2014 by wildrover77

[southeastpete]

Hey, wild rover, don't go getting discriminatory because some people can't read your thread properly. I'm southern and I think you did well, and I would have done the same also. Just ignore the flamers/trolls

[overandunder2012]

You are a bit thick or have not read the full thread I never confessed to driving at 120, I suggested the police passed me at that speed.

 

The Reg number is no good if the car is stolen or the ownership has changed, as was the case.

 

I am a responsible citizen I do not sit back when I see a problem I get involved, thankfully there are some of us left. I drove perfectly safely the whol time, as did the criminals.

 

Apparently it is perfectly acceptBle to use your mobile phone while driving in an emergency when phoning the police.

 

I notice at least one of you is a southern softy, probably where all the horror stories about the police come from as well. The yorkshire bobbies that took my statement were great we're glad of the help.

steady

[simjakcal]

Good on you m8 for what you did,,,.you did the honest thing unlike the thieving scum..

[wildrover77]

Hey, wild rover, don't go getting discriminatory because some people can't read your thread properly. I'm southern and I think you did well, and I would have done the same also. Just ignore the flamers/trolls

My original post was bit tongue in cheek, it all happened as I said but I did add a bit of humour, which was easily done in the situation.

 

The post about southern softies was in the same vain.

 

It really changed my view of the cops, the headlines you hear are obviously isolated incidents.

 

The took seriously the text of a hen because they knew that more than likely they would be able to get them for other more serious crimes as well.

 

Turns out my neighbour has been loosing hens for weeks, along with 1000 litres of diesel.

[longspoon]

Excessive speed, apparently using a phone whilst driving....disproportionate response to a petty crime in my opinion

[wildrover77]

Excessive speed, apparently using a phone whilst driving....disproportionate response to a petty crime in my opinion

I left out the bit about shooting out their tyres while moving and on a public highway, also have no insurance and am registered blind drunk

[fella]

You are a bit thick or have not read the full thread I never confessed to driving at 120, I suggested the police passed me at that speed.

 

The Reg number is no good if the car is stolen or the ownership has changed, as was the case.

 

I am a responsible citizen I do not sit back when I see a problem I get involved, thankfully there are some of us left. I drove perfectly safely the whol time, as did the criminals.

 

Apparently it is perfectly acceptBle to use your mobile phone while driving in an emergency when phoning the police.

 

I notice at least one of you is a southern softy, probably where all the horror stories about the police come from as well. The yorkshire bobbies that took my statement were great we're glad of the help.

 

 

Well if we're going to up the ante and get personal - Southern Softy or otherwise your driving will still affect the driving of the vehicle in front of you. If you're not chasing it, it is less likely to drive quickly. Your own words, in the first line, of the first post refers to a "high speed persuit" (Which coincidentally is actually "pursuit", but I fully acknowledge I am the thick one in this exchange...). If you don't drive fast, then it's unlikely the other car will. I would assume you won't believe me when I say this, so I would refer you to just about any cop show where police, in both the US and the UK, back off from speeding vehicles to put less pressure on them to cause an accident.

 

When you drive on your mobile phone you are more likely to have an accident. When you drive with excess speed you are also more likely to cause an accident. You combined the two, for the sake of a chicken. If you consider that to be proportionate for a crime that will attract no more than a slap on the wrist from the courts, then so be it. The fact is we disagree. As for how I feel about the police, they're great, but when things like this go wrong they get a bad press. If they had (rightly so in my eyes based on what you've written) told you to pull over, put the phone down, and go home to give them a statement, I would have been in favour of that too, although I'm sure you'd have been keen to slag them off, when the bigger picture is that they're not there to risk lives for petty crime. It's a chicken. It's not worth a car accident in a "high speed persuit".

[southeastpete]

Yea well done 'fella' too right. Everyone should let criminals do what they like for fear of further harm. If I see some old lady getting mugged, I won't step in in case I get battered too, or someone else in the melee. After all it only a handbag with maybe a hundred quid in, not worth getting injured for. Or is there a level of crime where you stop? Anything worth less then £20 people should be allowed to steal unhindered?

Edited November 3, 2014 by southeastpete

[fella]

I never said criminals should do what they like, what I said is, is that it's not worth a "high speed" pursuit for a chicken. I'm glad you only mentioned stepping in to stop an old lady getting mugged as the comparison though, and didn't jump straight to genocide, which is what I would expect from someone who would reply without seeing the bigger picture, and to misconstrue what I said to suit the purposes of what they wish to defend which seemingly is a high speed chase, while using a mobile phone, for the sake of a chicken.

[Dougy]

Wildrover,

 

well done for catching the bad guys

 

 

Now its your turn to be punished.

 

For allegedly driving while using a mobile phone :- you will receive a 12 month community order under supervision at KFC

 

For allegedly speeding at 120mhp in a 5mph zone :- a 2 week ban

 

you naughty man you

 

 

 

[southeastpete]

He exaggerated in his first post about the high speed bit, and has since posted that they drive in a reasonable manner.

Perhaps you should just do as my parents used to say, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Just don't post in a thread if you don't like the content...

[Jay_Russell]

It my of just been a poultry hen theft but good on you

[fella]

He exaggerated in his first post about the high speed bit, and has since posted that they drive in a reasonable manner.

Perhaps you should just do as my parents used to say, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Just don't post in a thread if you don't like the content...

 

So, you're saying that if you disagree with someone that you shouldn't post anything? Sound logic, but it would make forums dry up. Sorry I'm not into mutual backslapping of someone who might have got carried away and risked peoples lives for the sake of a single bird, but we're all part of life's rich tapestry eh? A couple of people have even agreed with me in this thread. Better tell them off too !

[victorismyhero]

the knockers should have the following stamped upon their foreheads

 

"all it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"

 

and THAT applies to all things both great and small....

 

AND

 

it is down to the individual concerned to make the "judgement" of what is ok in any given circumstance

[wildrover77]

Now that I have access to a laptop I can post in more detail and hopefully get my spelling and punctuation correct.

 

When I quoted a high speed pursuit i was to a certain extent using artistic license. Most of the time we were stuck behind a camper van and a wagon, however the criminals did try to outrun me for about two miles when the road was clear but quickly though better of it. We 'possibly' did go over the national speed limit for this time but our speed was not excessive and I stand by me assertion that we both were driving safely.

 

At the time I only knew about the hen and an old one at, that but it transpired afterwards that the farm in question has had many hens go missing over the last few weeks along with 1000 litres of diesel.

 

I never suggested I chased, them i said pursued, which in my dictionary means to follow, continue or proceed.

 

Registration numbers are **** all use unless you are law abiding and keep the DVLA up to date. If you steal a car they are no help to the police.

 

At no time did the police tell me to 'wet my nickers' and stop at the side of the road, as I was a mere member of the public and not a professional. Once the traffic BMW was within striking distance they told me to get out of the way(it was a single track road) and wait to give a statement.

 

I am reliably told that it is perfectly legal to use your phone while driving in the case of an emergency(someone please confirm this for me, preferable unlike fella you will have some true knowledge)

 

Driving at speed or while using a phone will not cause anyone to die instantly through spontaneous combustion, it simply increases the risk of what is already a risky occupation of your time. As does driving at night, in fog, in the winter none of which are illegal.

 

Fella I am afraid if everyone had your attitude this country would be in a sorry state.

 

I will state again my view of the police has been changed by the experience. I was expecting lectures on being a 'have a go hero' . However instead I was commended, my participation in the reporting of a petty crime may have helped in the fight against three lads who were obviously into much more extensive criminal behavior.

[fella]

When I quoted a high speed pursuit i was to a certain extent using artistic license.

 

Yeah, evidently. Now that you've been called out on it as being dangerous, this "High speed persuit" has turned into nothing more than meandering behind a camper van and a wagon.

 

 

 

I am reliably told that it is perfectly legal to use your phone while driving in the case of an emergency(someone please confirm this for me, preferable unlike fella you will have some true knowledge)

Fella I am afraid if everyone had your attitude this country would be in a sorry state.

 

Hey, being personal again, unnecessary. Where have I ever turned out to be unknowledgable? You might disagree with my opinion, but unfortunately my knowledge has been accurate and you're attacking my character which is a little bit sour. Yes, you are legally allowed to use your mobile phone to make a 999 call (but only if it is impracticable to stop and make that call), but that doesn't make it any less dangerous. I'll let you ask a second opinion on that though.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree. If your "high speed persuit" was really doing just following a car at the speed limit for a bit, then fine, just say that. There's no need to self proclaim yourself as a hero simply because you caught a chicken rustler or three. Or was that artistic licence as well? Did they in fact just pinch a bag of turkey twizzlers?

 

I'm all for bad guys getting caught, but your initial posts gave off the impression you were actually risking life and limb in a "high speed persuit". Fingers crossed the court treats them with the same contempt. Every citizen in this country should assist the police where it is safe to do so. What they shouldn't do is risk anyone's life to do it.

[wildrover77]

I don't belive you even read my initial post