birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I say take them to the cleaners... I see you fly the flag. I like America to. But not in this respect. Owt for nowt comes to mind. Very sad and extremely short sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Fill yer boots. I think perhaps South Yorkshire is where the term owt for nowt originated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I see you fly the flag. I like America to. But not in this respect. Owt for nowt comes to mind. Very sad and extremely short sighted. Don't agree with you that its short sighted... The lady in question has suffered a personal injury and should be compensated...its not Gold digging around a bogus claim...just basic common entitlement.. Like I said this is the reason Public Liability insurance is a statutory obligation.. If one doesn't claim on it what's the point in providing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 What did we do a few years ago? before lawyers were deregulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I see you fly the flag. I like America to. But not in this respect. Owt for nowt comes to mind. Very sad and extremely short sighted. what may seem to some as a crass statement is really based on a little more thought, the OPs wife has been injured, the bar or club have a duty of care to their customers which they failed to deliver. accidents happen and if it was nothing more than a minor slip or trip the i'm sure the OP wouldn't have drawn attention to this. But this is not the case is it, she's cut her foot on some discarded broken glass, this could easily lead to complications such as infection leading to time off work. why should her employer foot the bill for this paid leave? the blame doesn't lie with him. furthermore, if her employer doesn't run a sick pay scheme then she'll effectively be on short or no pay, which isn't the best predicament to find yourself in this close to Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think perhaps South Yorkshire is where the term owt for nowt originated You're wrong there,very strong Wesleyan work ethic here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Don't agree with you that its short sighted... The lady in question has suffered a personal injury and should be compensated...its not Gold digging around a bogus claim...just basic common entitlement.. Like I said this is the reason Public Liability insurance is a statutory obligation.. If one doesn't claim on it what's the point in providing it. What I meant by short sighted Mike is that, who do you think pays for that claim? We do. Insurance companies have a very simple philosophy in business. If they have claims greater than revenue they balance the books by putting up premiums. All inappropriate claims do is cost US ALL more for our bonified claims. I for one want insurance that I ca afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 it's hardly inappropriate if the injured party is out of pocket because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 You're wrong there,very strong Wesleyan work ethic here. Maybe but I never heard the saying until I moved to South Yorkshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 it's hardly inappropriate if the injured party is out of pocket because of this. It is if an element of their injury can be put down to neglect on their part. We all are responsible for our own safety. I understand everything about duty of care for employees and third parties. However we have to do our bit as well. If you are in some situations stupid enough to hurt yourself, why should you be compensated for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 explain where she was being negligent, or stupid, I doubt she first fell, then trod on the glass on purpose just to bung in a claim. as the OP said, they weren't even thinking about a claim at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamey Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 As others have said a marker needs to be put down and a copy of all relevant paperwork etc. it's not uncommon for a seemingly minor accident I.e. Paper cut event to sometimes develop into something much worse. Was there not a story in the papers of a lady who died after slipping on her driveway? I understand that she survived the fall, but developed some flesh eating disease. Glass, spilt drink, dirty floor don't sound the greatest. Sometimes you have to sue to make people accountable for their actions. Yes there are limits and some people take it to the nth degree, but an unsympathetic manager would push me all the more. The manager may well be on the hook themselves and will try and wiggle out of it at all costs. Best of luck, and I hope your wife is not too seriously hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Look at the cost that the proprietor could have paid out to safe guard his public visitor's who are actually keeping his business going, im thinking about £20 for 15 minute's work cleaning up the hazard. Now look at the possible loss to his business, allot more than £20. Would you have the same opinion if it had of happened in your lical Tesco. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I say take them to the cleaners... I saw what you did there. Cleaner was a not slow as someone slipped already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Whilst the slip is an acceptable accident - generally no problems, however glass in the foot that requires even minor surgical treatment could lead to at a minimum loss of earnings if sick leave is required. Not clearing a spill is one thing, not clearing broken glass quire another. If in a day or two problems arise you may need to follow it up so put a marker down now, if you don't need to proceed so be it. as to the example - walking on plough when you know it is there is not a good one The bar staff or manager might not have even been aware of the spill? This is the problem with the blame culture we now live in, it's always someone else's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 The bar staff or manager might not have even been aware of the spill? This is the problem with the blame culture we now live in, it's always someone else's fault. In a bar and not being aware of spilt drink, if it was a pile of Camel doo doo I could belive it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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