dunganick Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Well ive just re-bedded/pillar bedded my howa after not getting 100% convincing groups out of it, also doing some work to the stock so it looks better in my opinion, and now it is off at hte gunsmiths being threaded for a silencer. I fully expect this rifle to weigh as much as my car once it is back, and to be about as long as it as well, as i am having no length taken off the barrel when it is cut, and it is a cheapo non over barrel silencer. Probably going to add an extra 6" to the length :( If the silencer is any good and the rifle starts shooting better then i will have it shortened by 4" or so. untill then its going to be a monster pictures once its all back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 could it be a bad workman blames his tools ?? cheers :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 rifle looks fine to me ! and damage done to mr fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirky Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Nice looking rifle :( , my Howa .243 doesnt shoot that good, (about 1.5" @100yds) i was thinking of bedding mine, where did you get your things for bedding it ? i was thinking of using devcon, why did you use pillars ? sorry for the questions but i have never done a bedding job on any rifle so i want to find out all i can before starting mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hell, even if it aint what you hoped it would be, it does look damn good. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Nice looking rifle :( , my Howa .243 doesnt shoot that good, (about 1.5" @100yds) i was thinking of bedding mine, where did you get your things for bedding it ? i was thinking of using devcon, why did you use pillars ? sorry for the questions but i have never done a bedding job on any rifle so i want to find out all i can before starting mine. interesting? initially my .243 grouped reasonably well, I was getting touching hole groups using federal's then it went to pot? have cleaned it etc tried a few, then more through to settle it down, but to no avail, its going off to a gunsmith local to me, and I am going to see what he suggests, I would certainly think a bit of work on the trigger is needed, that will help a little but we will see if he can bed the action and ensure the barrel is fully floated but as its a synthetic stock and there aint a lot of it internally I may have to seek another stock? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 thing is i know how well i can shoot a rifle bench rested which has a poor trigger, and its a damn side better than mine is shooting. I twill hold 3/4" but its not as good as i would like. Reason for piller bedding is simply to just remove more variables, the less wood in contact with screw/action the better as it wont change pressure with heat/humidity. I used an Acra glass kit, however devcon is meant to set harder, and be a better bedding material. To be frank im not that concerned, im just looking for some improvement. Also now have nosler 50grain's avalible to me again, which i have had some good groups with through this rifle. So give those a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Just reading some of these responses and it's typical of centre fire ,or should i say just when you think you've cracked it and it decides it wants to shoot and group low ,or high ...........mine decided to shoot 1" over to the left to-day and that's 1.5" over from it's original zero set over a year ago so as it was calm after a horrendous hale I took full advaantage by altering the setting's ...........What's the betting that on it's next zero it's too far to the right Incidently my set up is still shooting 5p size groups and that's with any body pulling the trigger has I found out to-day ..........out of 3 of us I came last even though all of us managed 2 through the same hole the best group had the third shot touching If by pillar bedding ,barrel floating etc gives you confidence then that can only be a good thing but somehow I think fullbore can and still be able to play mind games so best of luck Nick :( .........It does look a lovely set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 The stock turned out nice Nick. As for the weight, well, my old Howa weighed a ton and that didn’t have a bloody big heavy barrel like yours. So gawd knows how heavy yours is. Shortened my .222 Howa to 18 inches and it shot better than it did with the original length, so it might be something to think about. As for the triggers on Howa’s …… :( ….functional is about the best word I could think of. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 It looks great Nick, I just hope you don't have to walk to far with it! What mod is it you are getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decroyffe Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 same as, looks great to me. Not a massive fan of Howa but from the picture it looks like it gets the job done :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 the mod is a very heavy one, not made by any particular manufactor, just one i got very very cheap. The trigger isnt too bad on mine, i am loathed to get a timney as thats £60 extra i think and all these little additions raise the cost to that of a tikka anyhow, it is in the hands of the gunsmith, the stock has had the comb flattned so it looks a bit better, glasss bedding job went well, bar one small void, which isnt too much of a problem. just got to do some loading and start shooting :( thanks for the tip G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Nick, where did you buy the pillars from for the pillar-bedding? I didn’t bother with using pillars on my Tikka because I just couldn’t find any, but just bedded it on bedding compound. The difference was quite amazing (once the bloody moderator was sorted) even with the Tikka. Some Howa’s have a very long bolts which makes the actions longer than necessary, but they are normally very accurate. Try a heavier bullet and see how it shoots. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 the 50grain is what im going to try, using 40 atm, get distinctly average groups. what did you change in the bedding fister and how are your results looking? GM, the pillers were some alluminium tube i found which was good as identicle to the size needed. Bedded both ends, so there isnt actually a metal on metal contact. Also anyone knowing where i can source a set of screws (hex or allen would be great) for my howa could they let me know, ive managed to make a mess of one got the barrel and mod back from the gunsmith, its silly its so heavy , but its great hopefully try it out tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisv Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Nick, I really hope you've had some success today. Just out of interest, which bullets and powders have you tried so far? I've been pretty happy with mine, but can't tell you exactly how well it shoots until I stop messing with bullet weights and powders. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 right, finally got around to an update, the work i have carried out seems to have worked, the following groups were the first 4 shots taken (some old 50grain vmax i had put together with 23.5gr of n133) @ 100 yards off a bipod and through a clean barrel. The right most hole was the first shot, the other 3 were the following 3 shots. Also a picture of the ridiculous length this gun is with its mod on just as well i rarely use this gun for anything other than shooting prone or from the car. The barrel will be cut down at some point, the silencer has simply been fitted as it was done for free and allows me to test my handloads on some of my more local permissions without anoying the farmers. also shortened the stock down and have flattened off the cheek piece so i think it looks nicer. Just need to wax it again and its all done. Pictures taken on my phone got some 50grain nosler's with 23.0 n133 -> 23.7gr to try out. Hopefully they will shoot as good as ive come to expect nosler products to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Looking good Nick, if a bit on the long side! I am probaly getting my cz barrel chopped by 3 or 4" as I don't like the nose heavy feel it has now But if you don't have to walk about with it shouldn't bother you so much. Are you going to be brave a try to chequer the stock? I bottled it in the end even though mine feels a bit slippy at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Looking good Nick, if a bit on the long side!I am probaly getting my cz barrel chopped by 3 or 4" as I don't like the nose heavy feel it has now :o But if you don't have to walk about with it shouldn't bother you so much. Are you going to be brave a try to chequer the stock? I bottled it in the end even though mine feels a bit slippy at times. nope mate, got so far i would never try on this stock and tbh i dont think it would look right. Quite happy with it as is Getting dangerously close to needing a new project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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