stripey999 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 There was actually a study carried out (I heard about it while in Cyprus (92-95) about the mortality rate of people after leaving the forces after a long service - 22+ years - I can't remember the facts but I do remember that it was quite surprising how high it was in the first 5 years or something like that Steve Jesus, I did 28 years and got out 2 years ago. Better check my insurance policies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I am one of the BAe cost cuts. The site I worked at for 33 years went from 5500 to less than a thousand in the time I was there. I took voluntary redundancy 5 years ago, many of my colleagues didn't get the choice. They are now selling the bulk of the site off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I worked for Sony for 15 years. When i still worked there, 3,500 ppl worked at HQ, now down to about 300... Happening everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 so to summarise, don't get a job as you might not live long enough once you demob :-) managed 11 years so far myself so you might be alright lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well im on my 30th year,think after reading this I will stay in BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Good evening Pete, 22 years So glad I got out last year with this weeks going on's, you heard what's happened to the trade tight choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) No Mate, I saw a current Plumber on Boxing Day at a shoot but he didn't mention anything. Is it the Pay Banding issue all over again? I joined and trained and became an AIRCRAFT TECHNICIAN WEAPONS and later got dropped to ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN WEAPONS! You have a PM Edited January 8, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think he means the new forces pay deal - armourers have been put into the lower pay bracket so they are now on the same as RAF Police and the like. A lot of other trades have been hit hard, but it was inevitable. Lots of unhappy bunnies around across the board among my still serving chums in the Army and RAF, but I've been trying to tell them for ages that once Afghanistan ends so will the big salaries, and the other perks will be the next to get eroded. Those of my vintage who remember serving in a peacetime military knew what I was on about, having been treated like dirt by government and the public alike, but a lot of the younger guys dont know whats hit them and are in for a very hard time to come I think until they can get their heads around it. I've been chatting to a guy this afternoon who used to work for me and is full of the "I'm getting out, civvy companies will bite my hands off" chat... Yeah yeah. I'm trying to get him to wise up but its not going very well so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Exactly that Zapp, I think Plumbers have been hard done by tho, it's one of the most technical diverse trades in the RAF. There is a lot of people saying they are going to "leave" wether they will when the dust settles is another matter!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Ah, apologies, I hadnt heard anything about the situation with the Plumbers. I feel bad for guys who joined after 2001, I think they have been sold a real pup in terms of what life in the military is about when there isnt an enduring campaign and are in for a series of hard lessons and disappointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sorry mate "plumber" is slang for armourers. Yeah I joined in 2009 and left last year. I left for the reason of too much time away for not a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Ok I'll admit to sitting here wondering why the RAF needed a whole trade group of plumbers... I'll chalk my lack of RAF slang knowledge down to having been in the Army. We had slang for you guys, but I wont post it on here The RAF types I've worked with were almost all Int Branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think he means the new forces pay deal - armourers have been put into the lower pay bracket so they are now on the same as RAF Police and the like. A lot of other trades have been hit hard, but it was inevitable. Lots of unhappy bunnies around across the board among my still serving chums in the Army and RAF, but I've been trying to tell them for ages that once Afghanistan ends so will the big salaries, and the other perks will be the next to get eroded. Those of my vintage who remember serving in a peacetime military knew what I was on about, having been treated like dirt by government and the public alike, but a lot of the younger guys dont know whats hit them and are in for a very hard time to come I think until they can get their heads around it. I've been chatting to a guy this afternoon who used to work for me and is full of the "I'm getting out, civvy companies will bite my hands off" chat... Yeah yeah. I'm trying to get him to wise up but its not going very well so far. Zapp It is fine until we start needing to put bombs under wings and then there just are not enough of "us". When the Harriers were flying out of GDC in Italy to bomb Kosovo, the lads did 72 long days on the trot and that was only a little bit of peacekeeping. It really beggars belief, the so called peace dividend! So glad I get out when I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Haha 😉, I beleive that Army ammo techs are now ranked a higher trade thank RAF armourers now from looking at the stuff that was published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Ok I'll admit to sitting here wondering why the RAF needed a whole trade group of plumbers... I'll chalk my lack of RAF slang knowledge down to having been in the Army. We had slang for you guys, but I wont post it on here The RAF types I've worked with were almost all Int Branch. You are/were a grunt or greenslime and we are crabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Zapp It is fine until we start needing to put bombs under wings and then there just are not enough of "us". When the Harriers were flying out of GDC in Italy to bomb Kosovo, the lads did 72 long days on the trot and that was only a little bit of peacekeeping. It really beggars belief, the so called peace dividend! So glad I get out when I did. Yup, there will no doubt be a rush when the lack of qualified personnel becomes an issue. That's how government seems to work across the board now I'm afraid. Haha , I beleive that Army ammo techs are now ranked a higher trade thank RAF armourers now from looking at the stuff that was published. Well, at least they managed to get something right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 My Nephew is about 10 years into his 22 as a fast jet tech. He did 2 tours of Afghan and earned a fair bit for doing so, He has also done USA/France and now is deployed elsewhere, He really wants to do his 22 but the tours are getting closer together with less time at home with the family, The tours aren't where you can take family. He would need to retrain onto civvy jets if he left. Times are changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yep, that just about sums it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Same old routine ,my generation were the "lucky"victims of the 80,s redundancies not made a rank after 6/9/12 years made redundant without appeal .At the same time they couldn,t understand why recruitment levels dropped away to nothing.Who wants a job for life that could be over at the drop of a hat due to not so civil service decision,s .Your regiment been around 500 years tough titty ,your being amalgamated with everybody.Staffordshire regiment gone ,how many Lancers and regiments of the line are now just flags hanging in a church and fading memories of proud ex servicemen.The world is a mess and some scary people are armed and very dangerous but as usual the men and woman expected to keep us safe are treated like dirt.Politicians suckkkkk . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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