Will H Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm looking at getting a mossberg 500 hushpower pump to use on about 8 acres of land next to my house. I'm out in open countryside but not far from a small town - nearest neighbour is around 150m away so want something quiet to avoid complaints! So, is there much difference in sound level between the 12 and 20 bore hushpower pumps - logic says to go for the more useful 12 but would noise levels be acceptable or is the 20 considerably quieter? I would be using subsonic cartridges and would like to get into reloading my own cartridges. the land I'd be using it on is fairly open on quiet a steep slope so I guess this would have some influence on noise. Anyway would be great to hear some views on this, Thanks, Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 The 20gauge over/under is a much better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 20 pump is fantastic us round pheasant pens on the crows the poults take no notice of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I had looked at the over under but liked the idea of the 3rd shot with the pump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I had looked at the over under but liked the idea of the 3rd shot with the pump... I should imagine by the time you've racked the gun twice whatever you are shooting at will be long gone. The larger pumps are cumbersome especially the 12 unless you are about 6'6" and built like a house. The o/u largely points ands shoots like a normal gun. Maybe best to get your hands around them and see how they feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah, I've only handled a .410 hushpower so would be good to see what fits best - need to pop down the gun shop and see what they've got! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyropredator Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I have the 20g pump and absolutely love it, feed it subsonics if you want to be really quiet but I get on fine with using normal cartridges. Last week I ended up speaking to a gent who's house was about 150 meters away from where we were shooting and he didn't hear a thing even thought he was in his back garden at the time. You have to be further away from the gun to appreciate the noise reduction as with your head in the stock it's very difficult to judge. With the 20 you still have a good choice of (albeit slightly expensive) cartridges but not the noise I imagine you would get from a moderated 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Thanks Pyro - thats really useful to know! Looks like the 20 seems the more popular option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I doubt there is much difference between both calibres ie patterns. I would recommend 12 but I am very bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Cookoff, in your experience is there much difference noise-wise between the 20 and 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Decent shells = good Homeloads = decent shells. I have minimal experience with hushyp guns. But the ammo I done a bunch and a half of. The issues are powder volume / gas volume produced saturating the moderator causing there to be excessive gas or gas speed or gas equilibration at the muzzel. Even though speed maybe below subsonic. Graham here has tried my one ouncers and was pleased. We also bodged a 21g subsonic. But all the credit should go to him. Graham is roughshooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Thats really interesting - so I'm guessing home loading is the way to go regardless of gauge to get the best noise reduction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterBen Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 How about a 410 .standard 19 g carts .less noise than a 20 or 12 .and a lot less weight..much nicer to carry and shoot How about a 410 .standard 19 g carts .less noise than a 20 or 12 .and a lot less weight..much nicer to carry and shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hunter Ben, I had looked at the 410 but wanted something with a bit more punch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I handled one of the 20 bore hushpower pumps a few weeks ago. Now, I'm not exactly tiny, but I found it to be very unwieldy. Must be close on 5 foot in length, and I felt it was very barrel-heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HushpowerTrim Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have the 12g pump, it's all I ever use even when noise wouldn't be an issue........ Use anything enough and you will become proficient with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Use anything enough and you will become proficient with it! . will have to try that line on the mrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 just bought a 410 Mossberg stealth yesterday, when I opened the box I noticed that there was no bead on the end of the barrel, I rang them back and he said that there supplier York guns said they said they don't put them on any more. so I will try it on Saturday they said you will soon get use to it what are your thought's on this lad's ? never shot a gun with no bead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterBen Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Dont worry about the bead.you even think about it when using it..Have fun they are great little guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterBen Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 sorry meant you will not think about the bead when using it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 o k, I can always use the force soon see on Saturday i'm quite looking forward to it thank's H B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 They probably leave off the bead because these guns tend to shoot low and looking up at the top of the bead will naturally point the barrels down slightly. I changed my quite tall bead for a button head screw which gave me a very low bead that I could still use as an aiming reference. You get used to how much you need to have your eye above the breech to allow for a low shooting gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperstu Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Personally would go for a 410 same punch as a 12 or 20. Less noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Personally would go for a 410 same punch as a 12 or 20. Less noise A 410 whilst quieter will cease to have a viable pattern at a much shorter range than a larger gauge because it will be throwing out barely half the shot charge of a bigger gun. The only way around this is to have a very tight pattern. Edited August 14, 2015 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Is it possible to get different chokes for the hushpower barrels or is choking fixed from the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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