Marc_Watson Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Dear All, I was wondering if you could help me here please? I've been hired by a friend to do some pest control work on behalf of his company. I have been advised that this will include small bird, rabbit, rodent and goose control. My boss has made a sum of money available for me to purchase a shotgun for the job, up to £750, if I contribute too. This will be provided when my SGC application is approved. Landlord has approved me installing a cabinet. Additionally I will also use the gun on my rough shooting permissions and for clays. I am used to Semi-Autos and Pump due to a physical disability; neither is a problem for me, however must be suitable for a left-hander (safety / trigger finger.) I am slightly better with Pumps. Could you suggest some suitable products please? Which gauge and color would be best? I also need a case which I am prepared to pay for myself. Some suggestions on suitable ammo would also be appreciated. If you need any further information please contact me. I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks for your time. Kind Regards, Marc Watson Edited August 24, 2015 by Marc_Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) If you are happy to use a semi then there are plenty to choose from, others will be far better qualified to advise on makes and models. The Remy 1100 and Wingmaster 870 pump were good tools in their day. By small bird I assume you mean pigeons, crows, magpies etc, rabbits and rodents can all be nailed with a 12 bore and 30 gr of 5 or 6 shot through a fairly open choke. Geese are bloody tough but aim for the head and ignore the body then 5s can bring them down but 3s and bigger are far better and more humane. I find 36gr of BBs work well on flighted Canadas with an odd Greylag but they play hell with my shoulder through my game gun. I would not worry about a transport case but you must have a slip as moving the gun from your house to your permission must be done with the gun covered. Ammunition, there are no shells that would be unsuited given the correct load and shot size. Some older semis want a good shove to work the action so 32 grs might be needed. Don't know why the above is underlined, bloody computers. Loads are as above, a 12 bore is not really a fox gun unless the range is sub 25 yards. Use lead 34/36 gr loads or more if your gun is proved for them. When living in your part of the world in the late 70s I was helping out a small shoot, we regularly found fly nets set to catch small songbirds for export. Last I heard instances are still occurring so keep your eyes open for fine mesh nets not to far from quiet roads. A Edited August 24, 2015 by Alycidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Something like a beretta a400 or a391 12g and 3 inch steel shot proof second hand. Or thr budget end like a hatsan 12g 3 inch steel shoot proof. Lots of choice e from £750. You won't need a 3.5 inche chamber unless wildfowling and taking high birds,even then the extra .5 is debatable. You could get a pump action, same brands and many to choose from. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Beretta A391 or Winchester sx3 or Browning Maxus would a be good or a wild card the ATA semi auto. Personally I'd avoid a pump for clays, colour up to you but pink may look a little less professional. Gun fit is the key to good shooting and most semis come with shims etc to allow that to be set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) If you are happy to use a semi then there are plenty to choose from, others will be far better qualified to advise on makes and models. The Remy 1100 and Wingmaster 870 pump were good tools in their day. By small bird I assume you mean pigeons, crows, magpies etc, rabbits and rodents can all be nailed with a 12 bore and 30 gr of 5 or 6 shot through a fairly open choke. Geese are bloody tough but aim for the head and ignore the body then 5s can bring them down but 3s and bigger are far better and more humane. I find 36gr of BBs work well on flighted Canadas with an odd Greylag but they play hell with my shoulder through my game gun. I would not worry about a transport case but you must have a slip as moving the gun from your house to your permission must be done with the gun covered. Ammunition, there are no shells that would be unsuited given the correct load and shot size. Some older semis want a good shove to work the action so 32 grs might be needed. Don't know why the above is underlined, bloody computers. Loads are as above, a 12 bore is not really a fox gun unless the range is sub 25 yards. Use lead 34/36 gr loads or more if your gun is proved for them. When living in your part of the world in the late 70s I was helping out a small shoot, we regularly found fly nets set to catch small songbirds for export. Last I heard instances are still occurring so keep your eyes open for fine mesh nets not to far from quiet roads. A Non toxic shot at all times in England on geese remember Edited August 25, 2015 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 both pump and semi auto will have to be LH otherwise the shell will eject across your face remember. Interesting to know what disability means a pump is of bat a double gun isn't? FAC auto in LH would be a right pig for a dealer to move very fast and hence a possible steal if you got the paperwork and found one, then it might be a hens teeth thing if you were looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Kelbrooke shooting club are doing left handed hatsan autos for around £400 3" chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have a benelli manchino, left handed montefeltro, which I got a good deal on as like has been said previously left handed semis are fairly rare secondhand. I wanted an al391 but they didn't make a left handed version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 When living in your part of the world in the late 70s I was helping out a small shoot, we regularly found fly nets set to catch small songbirds for export. Last I heard instances are still occurring so keep your eyes open for fine mesh nets not to far from quiet roads. How disgusting and repugnant to any decent person. I had no idea that such practices existed in this country, degenerate though I'm afraid it has become in many ways. I thought they were confined to the continent and Third World countries. I almost wish I hadn't read this thread, but I suppose it is a form of cowardice to wish to remain ignorant of the evil that human beings do in this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) It seems the type that break and enter into our country are not only prepared to vanish into the shadows to rape our country of its wealth but also prepared to steal and export its beautiful contents to make it a baron and worthless place. Edited August 29, 2015 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Non toxic shot at all times in England on geese remember Yep and bloody expensive it is at that. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 How disgusting and repugnant to any decent person. I had no idea that such practices existed in this country, degenerate though I'm afraid it has become in many ways. I thought they were confined to the continent and Third World countries. I almost wish I hadn't read this thread, but I suppose it is a form of cowardice to wish to remain ignorant of the evil that human beings do in this world. Remember that was 40 years ago almost now. In some european countries on the med song birds are almost non existent in some areas due to this activity and shooting them. I have often thought about nobbling a few driven blackbirds when waiting for pheasants to appear on a drive. Its what some of the continentals do all the while. These days our new arrivals are nobbling swans off our lakes and the carp out of them as well. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yep and bloody expensive it is at that. A 35 pence a shell actually 36 grm gamebore mammoth steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redditch Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Can't go wrong with a Beretta, or Benelli semi auto. If looking at pump action, take a good look at the "manufrance", they are really excellent pump actions and not very expensive either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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