Pattern Testing

[wildfowler.250]

Was wondering what you thought of these patterns?

 

 

I've been using these shells for years with good results. Just thought I'd try for interest. It was really hard to centre the pattern. 21mph crosswinds today was actually blowing the gun about a bit so I'm more interested in the pattern than what's actually in and out of the 30" circle. Using a half choke.

 

 

First two are with gamebore mammoth 36g 3" 3's.

 

At 30 yards I had 166 on / 24 off. Around 87%.

 

At 40 yards 146 on / 36 off.

 

 

 

The third and fourth are mammoth 3.5" 1's.

 

At 30 yards, 134 on / 24 off ,(about 87%).

 

At 40 yards, 99 on / 42 off.

 

 

Interested to hear your views? I'm pretty pleased with the results. I appreciate I should have probably done about 3 shots at each range per shell.

Edited September 13, 2015 by wildfowler.250

[fenboy]

Did you draw the circle on before or after , looks like a couple of those would give you a even better % if you moved the circle slightly.

[wildfowler.250]

Thanks for the reply! Drew the circle on before but the wind was properly blowing the gun around,(and also occasionally blowing the marker off that I had in the centre of the circle). Doesn't look too bad though?

[fenboy]

To tell how the cartridge is patterning you need to draw the circle on afterwards so the centre of the shot is around the centre of the circle , do that and it will be even better than is shown now .

Other than that I would say they are very good for a factory load

[stalker58]

you should draw the circle over the centre of the pattern after shooting the target to get your correct % of shot! As Fenboy said!

 

These are 2 plates with eley lightning no 3 3 inch 32 gram..30 and 40 yds...1/2 choke Maxus

Edited September 14, 2015 by stalker58

[Old farrier]

Hi

Thanks for taking the trouble to post and do the hard work

Look good to me 😋

May I ask gun make and type of choke

 

Thanks again

All the best

Of

[wildfowler.250]

Thanks for the replies guys, didn't know the circle went on after.. so the pattern would actually be even better as you say.

 

O.F. It's a maxus 26" barrel and the half choke that came with the gun. It comes with two "half" chokes but one of which is slightly longer and I believe is for larger shot sizes,(this is the one I use all the time though).

[Old farrier]

Many thanks

Wasn't sure if you were using a aftermarket choke or not

 

All the best

Of

[wildfowler.250]

Many thanks

Wasn't sure if you were using a aftermarket choke or not

 

All the best

Of

Never felt the need for one but i was interested to see what the larger shells were throwing further out incase it was getting a bit "gappy".

[motty]

Also, be aware that for a true percentage, you must count the amount of pellets in the cartridges first.

[wildfowler.250]

Also, be aware that for a true percentage, you must count the amount of pellets in the cartridges first.

Cheers Motty, figured that quite pleased how they look for a standard choke.

[silver pigeon 3]

Also, be aware that for a true percentage, you must count the amount of pellets in the cartridges first.

 

Mammoth 36g 3's have a pellet count of 195, don't know about the 42g 1's but the BB's have 132.

[Farma Geddon]

42gram 1s should be 150 per cartridge ,your BB are B's and not BB.

Edited September 14, 2015 by Farma Geddon

[silver pigeon 3]

42gram 1s should be 150 per cartridge ,your BB are B's and not BB.

 

Say's BB's on the box! If there are 150 in 1's then I would say that 132 is about right in BB.

[Farma Geddon]

 

Say's BB's on the box! If there are 150 in 1's then I would say that 132 is about right in BB.

I would say you are wrong.

[dougall]

nought wrong with those patterns......

[anser2]

This is one of the problems with cartridges , you can never be sure what it says on the box is the same as whats inside the shells. I can never understand why when you buy a tin of beans there has to be a complete list of contents , down to colories value and E numbers yet when you buy cartridges , something that had the potential to blow up in your face there is very little information and even then it may not be accurate.

Edited September 14, 2015 by anser2

[silver pigeon 3]

I would say you are wrong.

 

Why? These are Gamebore, so may well be a larger shot than true BB - however they are marked and sold by Gamebore as BB's hence why I have referred to them as such.

[Farma Geddon]

 

Why? These are Gamebore, so may well be a larger shot than true BB - however they are marked and sold by Gamebore as BB's hence why I have referred to them as such.

Because BB is 4.6mm and therefore they would be 107 odd in 42 grams.

4.06mm 1s have 150 in 42 grams , it is logical , therefore , to assume you have B's .

Gamebore use American shot sizes but if they don't have BB or the appropriate wad for this size ,perhaps they substitute either one.

[silver pigeon 3]

Because BB is 4.6mm and therefore they would be 107 odd in 42 grams.

4.06mm 1s have 150 in 42 grams , it is logical , therefore , to assume you have B's .

Gamebore use American shot sizes but if they don't have BB or the appropriate wad for this size ,perhaps they substitute either one.

 

i'm intrigued now! I will cut a shell up again, re count the pellets, measure and weigh the shot load then report back.

[fenboy]

It is all very confusing , airgun BBs are also a different size to true BB shot .

Thing is you really should get what you pay for .

[silver pigeon 3]

Had a cartridge in the car so chopped it up!

 

Pellet count 140, total weight of pellets 43.7g, shot size 4.22mm. So that puts it somewhere between a english BB and an american BB. Very confusing!!

Because BB is 4.6mm and therefore they would be 107 odd in 42 grams.
4.06mm 1s have 150 in 42 grams , it is logical , therefore , to assume you have B's .
Gamebore use American shot sizes but if they don't have BB or the appropriate wad for this size ,perhaps they substitute either one.

 

Just to muddy the water again, shot size chart below

http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

[Farma Geddon]

And see what wad also. They use B&P but sometimes Multi metal .

[silver pigeon 3]

And see what wad also. They use B&P but sometimes Multi metal .

 

Sorry didn't look and all in the bin now!

[m greeny]

Had a cartridge in the car so chopped it up!

 

Pellet count 140, total weight of pellets 43.7g, shot size 4.22mm. So that puts it somewhere between a english BB and an american BB. Very confusing!!

 

Just to muddy the water again, shot size chart below

http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

Have also done my own pattern test a couple of weeks a go on both the gambore 3.5 42 gram 1s and 3s. In the 1s i got a pellet count of 138 and tested at 40 yards but also made the mistake of drawing the 30 inch circle on before hand any ways through a quarter choke i got 110 in the circle and through half choke i got 96. The 3s i got 147 hits through a quarter and 127 through half. This was shot through an extrema2 using standard chokes.